“If you speak to urban planners, they will tell you that to have a viable, sustainable community, you need 1100 to 1300 households. That’s a rule of thumb in that industry. A household in the UK is 2.4 people, so you can come to a figure. Very importantly, we are not saying that we actually know what the figures should be for Sark. It could be something very different and we haven’t come into Sark with a proposal to do X, Y, or Z. Specifically, we said we want the population to tell us what it is that they want, and what they feel is worth protecting, and what they feel should be changed. And we’ve done a bottom-up exercise, and we are now crunching the numbers based on that feedback


On today’s podcast, I’m in discussion with two gentlemen involved in the self-governing island of Sark which is located just off the coast of Normandy.

Christopher Beaumont, the 23rd Seigneur of Sark, and Swen Lorenz, a Sark immigrant who recently helped revitalize public interest in the island by creating the hugely successful ‘Move To Sark’ repopulation campaign, sat down with me in the Czech Republic and we talked everything Sark.

This is a fascinating conversation with these two Sarkees who are deeply involved in creating a long-term masterplan for this little-known Crown dependency. We discuss the past, present, and future of Sark in a thoroughly informative conversation.

Thanks to Christopher and Swen for taking the time to not only speak to me on the podcast but also for presenting the project to the Free Cities audience at our annual conference.

Enjoy the conversation.

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00:11 Introduction to the Free Cities Podcast

The host, Timothy Allen, introduces himself as the host of the Free Cities Podcast, the official podcast of the Free Cities.

Welcome to Advent

  • December 1st marks the beginning of Advent.
  • The host’s children have been making advent calendars for each other using just two sheets of card and some drawing skills.
  • They don’t put chocolates behind the doors but enjoy the tradition of opening a small cardboard door every morning to reveal a picture underneath.

Episode 54 and Introduction to Today’s Topic

  • This is episode number 54 of the Free Cities Podcast.
  • The host introduces today’s topic, which is a discussion with two gentlemen involved in the self-governing island of Sark off the coast of Normandy.
  • Christopher Beaumont, the 23rd Seigneur of Sark, and Swen Lorenz, a Sark immigrant who revitalized public interest in the island through a successful repopulation campaign, join the conversation.
  • They will discuss the past, present, and future of this fascinating UK anomaly.

03:42 Introductions and Background

The guests introduce themselves and provide background information about their connection to Sark.

Introduction by Swen Lauren

  • Swen Lorenz is known for working in the fund management industry and writing a blog called undervalue shares.com.
  • He became very involved with Sark after visiting it in 2004 due to his interest in small islands and offshore jurisdictions.
  • Swen rented a cottage on Sark during his visit and has maintained an ongoing connection with it ever since.

Introduction by Christopher Bowman

  • Christopher grew up in England and served in the Army for 27 years before joining Rolls-Royce.
  • In 2016, he received news that his father had passed away and that he was expected to attend a meeting of Sark’s government.
  • Christopher took up permanent residence on the island in 2017 and became the hereditary head of state, known as the Seigneur.

06:43 Connection to Sark and Moving to the Island

The guests discuss their personal connections to Sark and their decisions to move there.

Swen’s Connection to Sark

  • Swen moved from Germany to the UK in 1998 and developed an interest in small islands and offshore financial havens.
  • He visited Sark in 2004, rented a cottage, and has maintained a connection with the island ever since.
  • In 2017, Swen decided to move permanently to Sark and made it his only home.

Christopher’s Connection to Sark

  • Christopher grew up in England but received news about his father’s passing and his obligation as the hereditary head of state for Sark.
  • He moved from the UK to Sark in July 2017 after attending a meeting of Sark’s government.
  • Since then, he has been living on the island full-time.

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08:33 Becoming a Local in Sark

The speaker discusses the concept of becoming a local in Sark and how it is perceived by the community. They mention that some people consider themselves more Sarkee (Sark resident) than others based on their length of stay, with those whose grandparents are buried on the island being seen as true locals.

Becoming a Local

  • In small communities like Sark, there is a hierarchy among residents based on their length of stay.
  • Being considered a local is more about legend and heritage than actual time spent on the island.
  • The speaker and Swen connected in 2007 when they realized they had similar goals for Sark’s development.

09:16 Initial Impressions and Collaboration

The speaker shares their initial impressions of Sark and how they met Swen. They also discuss their collaboration and common goals for the island’s development.

Initial Impressions

  • The speaker expressed during a talk to the Chamber of Commerce that there weren’t enough residents on the island to make it thrive.
  • Swen picked up on this statement, leading to conversations about their shared vision for Sark.


  • The speaker and Swen discovered that they had almost every aspect needed to achieve their goals in common.
  • Since then, they have been working together closely towards these objectives.

09:59 Trigger for Change – Spring 2020

The speaker explains what prompted them to take action for Sark’s development. They discuss a specific trigger event during spring 2020 that led to an influx of people moving to the island.

Population Decline

  • By spring 2020, Sark’s population had decreased from around 600 in 2010 to approximately 360.
  • The local supermarket was rumored to be on the verge of closing due to a lack of customers.

Taking Action

  • The speaker, having a blog and an international network, decided to write an ebook about moving to Sark.
  • After publishing the ebook, they received significant attention, including an article by the BBC.
  • Within four months, 120 people moved to Sark during the COVID-19 pandemic and Brexit deadline.

11:52 Brief History of Sark

The speaker provides a brief history lesson about Sark’s location and its historical ties with France and England.

Location and Historical Ties

  • Sark is located in the Channel Islands, adjacent to France’s coast.
  • It has always been part of the Duke of Normandy’s territory since William the Conqueror’s time.
  • Over centuries, various parts of France were returned, but the Channel Islands remained under English rule as part of the Duchy of Normandy.
  • The current allegiance is owed to the King/Queen of England as they hold the title Duke/Duchess of Normandy.

Early Inhabitants

  • The Channel Islands have been inhabited since Neolithic times and are considered a place with spiritual significance.
  • There are archaeological remains such as dolmans indicating ancient habitation on Sark.
  • In the 6th century, a monastery was established on Sark but was later wiped out by the Black Death in the mid-1300s.

French Incursions

  • After being abandoned following the Black Death, pirates used Sark as a base. Occasional French incursions also occurred due to their interest in reclaiming it.
  • In 1560s, Helier de Carteret from Jersey established a permanent base on Sark to counter these incursions.

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16:19 Feudal System and Rent

The speaker discusses the feudal system in the island and the rent they pay.

Feudal System

  • The island operates under a Charter granted in 1565, which establishes a feudal relationship between the speaker, the island, and the crown. 16:19
  • The speaker is referred to as the 23rd Seigneur of SAR. 16:19


  • The speaker confirms that they pay a ground rent of £179. 16:46
  • The rent is not tied to inflation, unlike other expenses. 16:46
  • In 1565, the rent was set at 50 shillings or 50 Souls. 17:13
  • Wheat is still accepted as payment for rent on the island. 17:13

17:38 Transition to Democracy

The speaker explains how the transition to democracy occurred on the island.

  • In 2008, prompted by external pressure and concerns about fairness, the UK government encouraged a transition to democracy in SAR. 18:08
  • Previously, people without property had no say in governance due to the feudal system. Universal suffrage was introduced for democracy. 18:32
  • The UK government threatened to make legislation difficult if SAR did not change its system.18:56

18:56 Self-Governance and Legal System

The speaker discusses self-governance and legal systems on the island.


  • SAR is considered a self-governing jurisdiction within the framework of UK guidelines but has no representation in the UK. 19:18
  • The island raises its own taxes and uses them for its own purposes. SAR has no debt and is not allowed to be in debt by law. 20:15

Legal System

  • SAR operates under the UK legal system but has its own criminal court and judge for minor disputes. Appeals can go up to the UK Supreme Court. 19:55
  • The court on the island is small, similar in size to a room, and handles minor disputes through judgment by consent.19:36

21:15 Infrastructure Projects and Taxes

The speaker discusses infrastructure projects and taxes on the island.

  • The last major infrastructure project was building the harbor, which was started in the early 1930s. A landing tax was introduced to pay for it, which still exists even though the project has been paid off. 21:33
  • Taxes introduced tend to remain indefinitely, even after their initial purpose is fulfilled.21:56

22:16 Good Governance and Change

The speaker talks about good governance and changes made on the island.

  • SAR had to demonstrate good governance when pressured by external forces due to concerns about human rights violations related to feudal systems.22:16
  • Since then, there have been no significant pressures or demands for change on the island’s governance system.22:35
  • Unlike other neighboring islands like Isle of Man, SAR may be considered too small or far away to attract certain businesses based on legislative abilities.23:18

24:02 The Offshore Industry in Sark

This section discusses the offshore industry in Sark during the 1990s and its impact on the financial center. Lack of regulation attracted a large offshore industry, leading to undesirable activities.

  • The lack of regulation in Sark during the 1990s attracted a significant offshore industry.
  • Undesirable activities occurred within this offshore industry that should not have happened in any financial center.
  • A crackdown was eventually initiated due to these activities.
  • Sark has a close relationship with Guernsey, a well-run financial center, and certain minimum standards need to be adhered to.

25:02 Coordination with the UK

This section highlights the coordination between the Channel Islands and the UK regarding immigration policy and maintaining a close relationship.

  • Immigration policy into the Channel Islands is coordinated with the UK to prevent using it as a backdoor entry.
  • The close relationship between the Channel Islands and the UK is important, and setting up minimum standards is necessary.
  • In the 0s200, Sark put itself under Guernsey’s financial regulatory regime to address issues on their island effectively.

25:56 Individual Aspects of Sark

This section emphasizes that various aspects contribute to understanding Sark but require detailed explanation.

  • Understanding Sark requires living there for an extended period due to its complexity.
  • Marketing Sark has not been prioritized due to its small size and lack of critical mass.
  • The speaker has gathered information about Sark as a personal project but acknowledges it may not be worth others’ effort.

26:34 Regulatory Power in Sark

This section discusses regulatory power in Sark and the possibility of creating their own regulations.

  • Sark defers to Guernsey for financial regulations but could establish its own regulations if they had a financial regulator on the island.
  • There is potential for Sark to have its own company register, as indicated by discussions with Guernsey authorities.

27:13 Relationship Between Seneschal and Government

This section explains the relationship between the Seneschal and the government in Sark.

  • The speaker, as a non-political figure, compares their relationship with the government to that of The King’s relationship with the UK Parliament.
  • The government in Sark consists of 18 voting members called councillors who govern through committees.
  • Additionally, there are two additional members, including a speaker elected separately.

27:55 Governance Structure in Sark

This section provides insights into the governance structure and job titles within the Sark government.

  • Members of the government are referred to as councillors rather than Members of Parliament.
  • They serve on various committees and do not hold specific job titles within the government.

28:20 Recent Governance Issues

This section mentions a recent tax review committee as an interesting governance issue in Sark.

  • A tax review committee was established after many years to address long-term sustainability issues regarding finances in Sark.
  • The committee confirmed that there is no appetite for income tax or value-added tax (VAT) in Sark.
  • Currently, taxes are based on property size, and reporting income or assets is not required unless desired by individuals.

29:40 Reasons for No Income Tax

This section explains why there is no income tax in Sark.

  • The absence of a large number of high-income earners in Sark makes income tax unnecessary.
  • The economy of Sark is based on low-skilled and low-wage work, making income tax impractical.
  • While there are some offshore individuals in Sark, it is not as common as in larger Channel Islands.

30:19 Attractions and Limitations of Sark

This section discusses the attractions and limitations of living in Sark compared to other Channel Islands.

  • Living in Sark has its limitations, such as the absence of cinemas or theaters, requiring residents to travel by boat for entertainment options.
  • The speaker mentions that people who choose to live in Sark often prioritize other aspects over financial benefits.

30:56 Descriptive Title

The speaker discusses the size of the island and why having a car is unnecessary. They also mention that despite being close to the sea, it is not visible from most parts of the island due to its flat topography.

Island Size and Transportation

  • The island is approximately 1500 acres in size.
  • It measures about 5 kilometers by 2.5 kilometers.
  • Despite its size, the island’s flat topography makes it seem larger than it appears.
  • Having a car on the island is unnecessary as there are alternative modes of transportation such as bicycles.

Social Life and Proximity to Gery

  • The social life on the island is diverse and interesting, with residents from various backgrounds.
  • Many people have commented on how quickly they make friends on the island.
  • Jersey, a nearby island with a population of 62,000, is only half an hour away by boat.
  • The proximity to Jersey provides access to shopping and other amenities.

31:42 Des Title

Section Overview: The speaker addresses concerns about cabin fever and claustrophobia on the island. They discuss how the topography and social dynamics contribute to a sense of openness and community.

Topography and Island Perception

  • Despite being close to the sea, most parts of the island do not have direct views of it due to its plateau-like structure.
  • The elevation difference between sea level and the highest point on the island is around 80 meters (250 feet).
  • People often underestimate the size of the island until they explore it further.

Social Dynamics and Community

  • The small population does not lead to feelings of claustrophobia or isolation.
  • Residents tend to get along well with each other due to their close proximity.
  • There is no point in making enemies since everyone is interconnected and likely to encounter each other in daily life.

33:38 Descriptive Title

The speaker discusses the demographics of the island, including the average age and the number of young families. They also mention the presence of a small school on the island.

Demographics and Age Distribution

  • Before the repopulation campaign, the average age on the island was above 60.
  • After an influx of new residents, the average age has decreased but is still above 50.
  • Over 50% of the population is over 65 years old.

Young Families and Education

  • There are approximately 15 to 20 young families on the island.
  • The island’s small school accommodates children from ages 3 to 13.
  • Secondary education is typically pursued in Gery or other nearby locations.

34:22 Descriptive Title

The speaker emphasizes the friendly nature of people on the island and how they interact with each other. They also discuss community dynamics and why it’s important to get along with others.

Friendliness and Community Interaction

  • People on the island are welcoming and greet each other warmly.
  • Even those who may not particularly like someone will still acknowledge them.
  • The speaker compares this behavior to their own experience living in a remote community in Wales.

Community Dynamics

  • In a small place like SAR, it is impractical to make enemies or avoid certain individuals due to limited options for relocation.
  • Residents learn to get along well with each other due to their shared environment.

35:17 Descriptive Title

The speaker describes some key locations on the island, including shops, restaurants, and a charity shop. They also discuss ongoing efforts for repopulation and gathering feedback from residents.

Island Infrastructure

  • The main street on SAR has a variety of establishments, including shops, restaurants, and a charity shop.
  • The charity shop is locally run and supports medical initiatives on the island.

Repopulation Campaign

  • The speaker mentions an ongoing repopulation campaign on the island.
  • The goal is to gather feedback from residents about what they want for the future of the island.
  • The population number is crucial for sustainability and determining necessary changes.

36:18 Descriptive Title

The speaker discusses the importance of population size for a sustainable community. They explain that while there are general guidelines for household numbers, it ultimately depends on what the residents want for SAR.

Population Size and Sustainability

  • Urban planners suggest that a viable community needs 1100 to 1300 households.
  • In the UK, a household typically consists of 2.4 people.
  • However, the speaker acknowledges that SAR’s ideal population may differ from these general guidelines.
  • The repopulation campaign aims to determine what residents feel is worth protecting and changing on the island.

37:54 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses the need for a long-term master plan for the island of Sark and highlights the importance of addressing issues with the harbor facilities.

Need for a Long-Term Master Plan

  • The current population is not sufficient, and more people are needed on the island.
  • One of the main things that people want but haven’t got is better harbor facilities.
  • The harbor is user-unfriendly, unreliable, and has aesthetic issues.
  • Burning rubbish in the harbor creates smoke with floating bits of plastic, which negatively impacts tourists’ experience.

Addressing Harbor Issues

  • A first step has been taken by hiring one of the world’s leading experts for harbors and marinas to create an assessment.
  • The assessment will be published soon to identify areas that need improvement.
  • Deric properties (properties lacking investment) were identified as a major concern during consultations.
  • Acquiring derelict properties and bringing bulk investment can help address this issue.

Challenges with Property Ownership

  • Historically, it was illegal to raise a charge or mortgage on a property in Sark until 2018.
  • Due to this restriction, there is no market for borrowing money in Sark, making it difficult for individuals to acquire mortgages.
  • Banks perceive it as a high-risk market due to lack of understanding and small scale.

Resolving Property Market Issues

  • As part of their overall plan, they have engaged with a bank willing to provide first loss guarantees for initial mortgages.
  • This bank aims to help young people enter the property market in Sark by creating a Sark mortgage market.
  • Resolving these issues requires energy, financial firepower, and expertise from a party willing to take on these challenges.

40:18 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker emphasizes that resolving issues in Sark requires a comprehensive master plan and highlights the need for critical mass in finance and resources.

Importance of a Master Plan

  • The underlying issues in Sark, such as electricity supply safety and island connectivity, deter potential investors.
  • Existing hotel companies show interest initially but back out during due diligence due to numerous red flags.
  • A master plan that addresses all aspects simultaneously is crucial to attract large investments.

Role of Critical Mass

  • Individual efforts are insufficient to create the necessary critical mass of finance.
  • Without pooling resources together, there won’t be enough financial support for significant projects.
  • Approximately 15 to 20% of the 330 buildings on the island are derelict or underutilized, requiring extensive renovation.

Financing Challenges

  • The tourist industry does not offer options for individuals to renovate properties and rent them on platforms like Airbnb due to lack of financing opportunities.
  • Creating a master plan can help address these challenges by providing a framework for development.

43:21 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses the potential opportunities for investment in hotels and highlights the importance of structural engineering assessments. They also mention inquiries about creating a documentary about Sark.

Investment Opportunities in Hotels

  • Hoteliers generally focus on operating hotels rather than construction projects.
  • Acquiring properties that include hotels provides an opportunity for investment.
  • Structural engineering assessments are necessary to determine renovation costs and ensure safety standards.

Potential Documentary Opportunity

  • The speaker has been approached by film crews interested in creating a documentary or fly-on-the-wall series about Sark.
  • They acknowledge the potential opportunity but have not pursued it extensively yet.

44:46 Property on Sark worth 100 million pounds

The speaker discusses the estimated value of the property on Sark which they intend to purchase. They mention the involvement of independent experts in developing a master plan for the island’s future.

Property Value and Master Plan

  • The estimated value of the property on Sark they wish to acquire is around 100 million pounds.
  • Independent experts will be engaged to develop a master plan for the next 20-50 years for the entire island.
  • Christopher, who is currently involved, will eventually take over and focus on various initiatives beneficial for the island and community.
  • Proposals include affordable housing, addressing problematic situations like harbor issues, and engaging with stakeholders.

45:09 Efforts to improve Sak Island

The speaker discusses their efforts to improve Sark Island beyond real estate development. They mention proposals for affordable housing, resolving harbor issues, and engaging with stakeholders.

Improving Sark Island

  • In addition to real estate development, efforts are being made to address other issues on Sark Island.
  • Proposals include affordable housing solutions and resolving harbor-related problems.
  • While the harbor is government-owned, they aim to be helpful in finding solutions.
  • Engaging with stakeholders and hiring experts have been part of their approach.

45:26 Transparency and collaboration in project development

The speaker emphasizes transparency in their project and highlights their collaborative approach by working with stakeholders and bringing in outside expertise.

Transparency and Collaboration

  • The project aims to be transparent by publishing results from expert consultations.
  • They consider themselves a hybrid between a private investment project at a large scale and an entity that collaborates with communities, stakeholders, and international experts.

45:58 Balancing preservation and progress on Sark Island

The speaker discusses the importance of balancing preservation and progress on Sark Island. They emphasize the need to protect what special makes the island while also moving forward.

Balancing Preservation and Progress

  • The project aims to protect the unique aspects of Sark Island while taking steps forward in terms of development.
  • They acknowledge the need for progress in either preserving what makes the island special or advancing other aspects.

46:17 Funding and progress of the project

The speaker addresses funding concerns and highlights their progress in securing investments for the project.

Funding and Progress

  • Raising funds for property acquisition, renovation, redevelopment, and extension is not an issue anymore.
  • They have spent two years working on an investment case and have successfully attracted investors.
  • While fundraising is challenging, they have cracked that aspect and are now focused on executing plans.

47:00 Complexity of planning steps

The speaker explains that complex planning steps are currently being undertaken, which require time to complete. They mention engaging experts, waiting for reports, and following a certain order in processes.

Complexity of Planning Steps

  • Complex planning steps are involved in the project’s execution.
  • Hiring experts, waiting for reports, and following a specific order are part of these planning steps.
  • Advancement has been made as fast as possible considering these complexities.

48:17 Project status and timeline

The speaker provides an update on the current status of the project. They mention ongoing conversations regarding property acquisition but highlight that there is still work ahead before finalizing everything.

Project Status Update

  • Currently, they are in the concept stage and have not acquired the properties yet.
  • Ongoing conversations regarding property acquisition are taking place.
  • The speaker estimates that they are approximately 80% through the process of making the project happen.
  • However, there is no guarantee of its success, and more work lies ahead, which may take several months to complete.

48:52 Community engagement and stakeholder involvement

The speaker discusses community engagement efforts and involving stakeholders in the decision-making process. They mention hiring an organization called “The Princes Foundation” for community engagement.

Community Engagement and Stakeholder Involvement

  • To gain investor confidence, community input was sought through a community engagement process facilitated by “The Princes Foundation.”
  • The report from this engagement process was published in July.
  • Further stakeholder engagement is being conducted to demonstrate that their proposals align with community interests.

50:23 Two plans for Sark Island

The speaker explains that there are two plans for Sark Island. One focuses on the property portfolio, while the other aims to address broader issues on the island. They emphasize a bottom-up approach with independent experts determining the content of the wider plan.

Two Plans for Sark Island

  • There are two plans being considered for Sak Island.
  • One plan focuses on the property portfolio worth 100 million pounds.
  • The other plan aims to address broader issues on Sak Island beyond real estate development.
  • The wider plan will be developed through a bottom-up approach with independent experts determining its content.

51:20 Descriptive Title

The speaker discusses the things that the community does not like and emphasizes the need for long-term thinking in governance.

Community Dislikes and Harbor Organization

  • The community dislikes derelict property and rubbish.
  • They are not keen on how the government is running things.
  • The harbor organization is a major concern for them.

Creating a Sustainable Community

  • The aim is to create a sustainable community that will survive for future generations.
  • Monarchies have a long-term vision, which can be beneficial for development.
  • Feudal systems were built on protecting land for future generations.

52:00 Descriptive Title

The speaker reflects on the advantages and disadvantages of different governance systems, highlighting the short-term focus of democracies.

Feudal System vs Democracy

  • The feudal system worked well for 400 years without interference.
  • Democracies lack long-term thinking due to short-term interests of politicians.
  • Democracies disenfranchise a significant portion of the population.

54:04 Descriptive Title

The speaker discusses the democratic process in their community and highlights its personality-based nature.

Democratic Process and Campaigning

  • Residents qualify to vote after living in the community for two years.
  • There is no campaigning; voting is based on personalities rather than manifestos.
  • Turnout is generally high, but some residents question why they cannot vote earlier.

56:18 Descriptive Title

The speaker describes the political landscape and culture of Sag, emphasizing minimal government involvement and simple regulations.

Minimalist Government and Simple Regulations

  • Sag has only five government employees, including members of parliament.
  • There are few regulations, making processes like obtaining licenses straightforward.
  • Taxes are low, but people appreciate the simplicity of the tax system.

57:33 Descriptive Title

The speaker discusses the issues and discussions within the community, including affordable housing and tax reviews.

Community Issues and Discussions

  • The community focuses on maintaining independence and affordable housing.
  • The tax review is a widely discussed matter among the population.
  • The state of roads and construction are also topics of interest.

58:20 Opinions on Running a Place like the Free Cities

In this section, the speaker discusses their personal opinions on how a place like the Free Cities should be run.

Personal Opinions on the Role of the State

  • The speaker believes that different ideas exist about how to run a place like the Free Cities.
  • They express curiosity about the role of the state and ask for personal opinions.
  • The speaker suggests that government services can be employed to carry out tasks based on consensus decisions made by the community.
  • They mention that borrowing money may require involving the private sector.
  • Building up reserves and being fiscally prudent are seen as ways to address financial needs.

59:52 Different Demographics and Views

This section focuses on different demographics and their views in relation to running a place like the Free Cities.

Views of Different Demographics

  • The speaker mentions that different demographics may have varying preferences and priorities.
  • They suggest that certain demographics, such as older individuals, may lean towards preserving traditions and resisting change.
  • However, they acknowledge that even conservative demographics recognize areas for improvement on the island.

01:00:52 Libertarian Views and Employment Law

Here, libertarian views and employment law are discussed in relation to running a place like the Free Cities.

Libertarian Perspective on Employment Law

  • The speaker highlights that Sark has no employment law, making it attractive for entrepreneurs.
  • They emphasize considering both employers’ and employees’ perspectives for a balanced approach.
  • It is mentioned that an imbalance could lead to distrust within society.

01:02:17 Attracting Families and Digital Nomads

This section focuses on attracting families and digital nomads to a place like the Free Cities.

Attracting Families and Digital Nomads

  • The speaker states that there is already interest from families in moving to Sark.
  • They mention that families who are open to homeschooling or online schooling may be more likely to consider relocating.
  • It is acknowledged that digital nomads may come and go, but there is no issue with attracting people.

01:03:29 Population Size and Secondary Education

Here, the discussion revolves around population size and the possibility of having secondary education in a place like the Free Cities.

Population Size and Secondary Education

  • The speaker explains that having a secondary school requires a larger population than Sark can accommodate.
  • They suggest that importing children and teachers for a specialized school could be an option.
  • However, due to limited space, it is not feasible to have a critical mass of students for secondary education on the island.

01:04:47 Types of Families Interested in Moving

This section explores the types of families interested in moving to a place like the Free Cities.

Types of Families Interested in Relocating

  • The speaker mentions that there is interest from various types of families, including those who may choose homeschooling or online schooling options.
  • They clarify that attracting families is not an issue; rather, finding suitable housing for them becomes challenging.

01:05:26 Homeschooling and Social Interaction

The speaker discusses the potential disadvantages of homeschooling, particularly in terms of social interaction.

Homeschooling and Social Interaction

  • Homeschooling may not work for the speaker because they believe that the social element of being around other people is important for interacting with the world.
  • The speaker mentions that homeschooling has evolved with online education, but emphasizes that it is essentially just kids living at home.
  • However, if there is a group of homeschoolers in a town who regularly get together, there can still be opportunities for social interaction.
  • The speaker gives an example of their friend who homeschools their children online but also organizes real-life events and activities for them.

01:06:31 Schooling Mechanism on Sark

The speaker discusses how schooling works on Sark and highlights the decentralized nature of education on the island.

Schooling Mechanism on Sark

  • The schooling mechanism on Sark is more decentralized compared to traditional schools.
  • The speaker mentions their friend who homeschools three of their four children using online resources but also ensures they have real-life events and interactions.
  • They suggest that this type of schooling could potentially work well on an island like Sark where there are limited options for traditional schools.

01:07:15 Challenges of Education on Islands

The speaker talks about the challenges they face in providing education options for their own children living in a remote area.

Challenges of Education on Islands

  • The speaker shares that they live on a farm in a remote area similar to Sark but not on the island itself.
  • They mention that while their local secondary school is excellent, they are hesitant about sending their kids to a neighboring town for boarding school.
  • The speaker acknowledges that having a larger environment around them allows for options like a school bus service, which is not currently possible on Sark.

01:08:18 Attraction and Niche Market of Sark

The speaker discusses the unique appeal of Sark and how it attracts a niche market of people despite its limitations.

Attraction and Niche Market of Sark

  • The speaker mentions that when they launched their campaign for Sark, it gained viral attention and media coverage.
  • They highlight the luxury of not needing to attract a large number of people to the island.
  • Despite the quirks and difficulties, there are individuals who find Sark to be a perfect fit for them.
  • The speaker notes that many people at the conference expressed interest in moving to Sark after hearing about it.

01:09:32 Impact of Pandemic on Sark

The speaker explains how Sark managed during the pandemic and discusses the impact on tourism.

Impact of Pandemic on Sark

  • During the pandemic, travel restrictions were imposed, preventing people from moving to and from the island.
  • Goods were still brought in through boat services, with proper disinfection measures in place.
  • After an initial lockdown period, Sark formed a bubble with other nearby islands like Guernsey and Isle of Man.
  • This allowed for some level of normalcy within these bubbles, including tourism between Guernsey and Sark.
  • The speaker mentions that despite being a niche market, they had a successful tourist season due to being part of these bubbles.

01:11:35 Transport Links to Sark

The speaker explains the transport links available to reach Sark from mainland UK or France.

Transport Links to Sark

  • There is no direct ferry connection from mainland UK to Sark unless one has their own boat.
  • The common route is to take a ferry from mainland UK to Guernsey and then transfer to a boat that goes to Sark.
  • Similarly, there are boats from France to both Guernsey and Sark, allowing for travel between the countries.
  • During the summer, there may be direct boats from Jersey to Sark as well.

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01:12:31 The Sakis as a Well-Traveled People

In this section, the speaker discusses how the people of Sark are constantly traveling and shares their own experience of frequently being on the move. They mention an article in the Financial Times that describes the Sakis as a well-traveled people.

  • The speaker mentions that they are often off and away, constantly coming back and forth from different places.
  • They highlight an article in the Financial Times that suggests the Sakis are known for their frequent travels.
  • Living in London, it takes about an hour to get to Heathrow Airport, while in Sark, it only takes 35 minutes by taxi to reach the airport.
  • Despite taking longer to reach the airport from where they live on Sark (around 4 hours), they consider it a small price to pay for the lifestyle they enjoy.
  • The speaker mentions seeing dolphins sometimes during their journey to the airport.
  • It is possible to reach Central London from Sark within 3 hours if timed correctly, with various modes of transportation involved such as boats, flights, and taxis.

01:13:08 Travel Options and Costs

This section focuses on travel options available from Sak and associated costs.

  • Traveling by ferry from Jersey to the UK mainland costs around £35 for a return trip.
  • Flights from Jersey to London cost approximately £250 one way but do not offer many international destinations beyond the UK.
  • To access more international destinations, one would need to go to Jersey which has a larger airport.

01:14:01 Community Engagement and Real Estate Deals

Here, community engagement and real estate deals are discussed as key areas of focus.

  • The speaker mentions that community engagement is a top priority, as they have fine-tuned their ideas and want to engage with key stakeholders in a productive way.
  • They emphasize the importance of doing deals and proving a proper understanding of real estate through due diligence processes.
  • Inheritance cases are mentioned as some families have left properties on Sark but still expect high prices when selling.
  • The speaker acknowledges the complexity of dealing with multiple parties simultaneously to make everything come together.
  • They mention the intention to make mortgages accessible for everyone, not just themselves, and consider collaborating with families who want to be part of a wider plan.

01:17:14 Consensus on the Need for Change

This section highlights the consensus among Sak’s population regarding the need for change on the island.

  • There is a general agreement among people that something needs to happen on Sark due to concerns about its stagnant state and negative tourism trends.
  • The speaker mentions that Sark has had another bad tourist season due to factors like weather and competition from cheaper destinations like Spain.
  • While there is some consensus, more work needs to be done in terms of community engagement and gathering tangible ideas for development plans.

01:18:21 Transparency and Desire for More Information

The focus here is on transparency, desire for more information, and ongoing community engagement.

  • The speaker emphasizes their commitment to transparency, stating that they have been more transparent than anyone else on the island before.
  • They mention receiving a text message from an influential member of the community expressing interest in learning more about their plans.
  • There is a desire within the community to gain further knowledge about ongoing developments.

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01:19:18 Finding Accommodation and Information

The speaker suggests visiting the tourist website s.co/wuk to find accommodation options and information about activities and logistics. They also mention that assistance can be obtained by emailing them.

Tourist Website for Accommodation and Information

  • Visit s.co/wuk, the tourist website, to find accommodation options.
  • The website provides information about activities to book for children and logistics.
  • Assistance can be obtained by emailing the speaker.

01:19:39 Pondering the Project’s Challenges

The speaker expresses their admiration for the project but acknowledges that solving its challenges won’t be easy due to the nature of the island. They mention their intention to continue pondering it as an interesting predicament.

Challenges of the Project

  • The speaker finds the project brilliant but acknowledges its complexity due to the island’s nature.
  • They express their intention to keep pondering it as an interesting predicament.

01:19:59 Brilliant Opportunity and Personal Reflections

Despite recognizing the challenges, the speaker considers the project a brilliant opportunity. They express a sense of jealousy for not being involved in such a challenge themselves. However, they note that Sark may not suit their circumstances at this stage of life.

Personal Reflections on SCK

  • The speaker views Sark as a brilliant opportunity despite its challenges.
  • They feel a sense of jealousy for not being involved in such a challenge themselves.
  • However, they acknowledge that Sark may not suit their current circumstances.

01:20:16 Suitability of Sark and Solving Challenges

The speaker mentions that Sark itself suits their personality type because they live in a place without a coast. They believe they could solve the aspects that don’t suit them, such as online schooling for their kids and transportation links.

Suitability of SAR and Solving Challenges

  • The speaker finds Sark suitable for their personality type due to living in a non-coastal area.
  • They believe they could solve the aspects that don’t suit them, like online schooling for their kids.
  • Transportation links are important, but the speaker has already proven their willingness to prioritize them.

01:20:37 Wishing Good Luck and Conclusion

The speaker expresses admiration for the project’s challenge and wishes everyone involved good luck. They thank the guest for the conversation.

Admiration and Conclusion

  • The speaker considers the project’s challenge brilliant and wishes everyone involved good luck.
  • They express gratitude to the guest for participating in the conversation.