“We need to be creating free societies across the world. What was it that Hans-Hermann Hoppe said?  We need thousands of Liechtensteins'”.

We do need more of this across the world. You want to be able to run into your president at the local grocery store. That’s my opinion on it. We need more smaller communities that are free across the world.”

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This week on the podcast I’ve got another episode for you from Liberty In Our Lifetime and it’s a light-hearted chat I had with one of the newest additions to the Free Cities Foundation’s team, Natalie Danelishen.

I need to confess something before you listen. When we originally arranged to record this conversation a few weeks ago, the only free slot Natalie had in her busy conference schedule was the 2-hour window immediately after she arrived in Prague, so she ended up coming directly to my studio from the airport and from, what had turned out to be a rather long and sleepless 28-hour journey from the USA.

Between the bouts of propping her eyes open with matchsticks, we did eventually manage to hone in on a number of topics in our chat.  From Ron Paul, the Mises Institute and her mission to end the Fed, to homeschooling, inflation, and how to win on Elon’s new Twitter platform when, like her, you’re trying to spread ideas of freedom and liberty.

It was lucky for me that Natalie’s such a good sport.  If truth be told, most other people I know wouldn’t have been so polite on that little sleep, so thanks for coming on and I look forward to part two sometime in the not-to-distant future.

Lastly, just to remind you all the Free Cities Foundation has published three new books in the last few weeks.  There’s an updated version of Titus Gebel’s book Free Private Cities that has six new chapters including updates and lessons learnt from the movement so far. There is also Alex Voss’s new book Strategies for Liberty: Free Cities and Bitcoin and finally, Calvin Dukes’s Entrepreneurial Communitites – An alternative to the State.

All of these books are a fantastic read and can be found on our website and Amazon.

Enjoy the conversation.

Automatically Generated Summary

Section Overview: This section introduces the Free Cities Podcast and Episode 49, which features a lighthearted chat with Natalie Danelishen from the Free Cities Foundation. The episode was recorded at Liberty In Our Lifetime conference.

Getting to Know Natalie

  • Natalie joined the Free Cities Foundation team recently.
  • Due to her busy conference schedule, she arrived in Prague just before recording this conversation.
  • Despite being tired from a long journey, Natalie managed to discuss various topics during the chat.

Topics Discussed

  • The conversation covered subjects such as Ron Paul, the Mises Institute, ending the Fed, homeschooling, inflation, and spreading ideas of freedom on Twitter.
  • Natalie shares her experience using Twitter as a platform for spreading ideas.
  • Being witty and having timely replies can help gain followers and engagement on Twitter.
  • Elon Musk’s tweets often attract attention, and being one of the first to reply can lead to viral tweets or even getting a reply from Elon himself.

New Books by Free Cities Foundation

  • The Free Cities Foundation has published three new books recently:
    • An updated version of Titus Gebel’s book “Free Private Cities” with six new chapters.
    • Alex Vos’s book “Strategies for Liberty: Free Cities and Bitcoin.”
    • Calvin Dukes’s book “Entrepreneurial Communities: An Alternative to the State.”
  • These books are available on the foundation’s website.


Section Overview: Timothy interviews Natalie about her background and experiences working for the Free Cities Foundation. They also discuss using Twitter as a platform for spreading ideas.

Getting to Know Natalie (Continued)

  • Timothy admits that he doesn’t know much about Natalie beyond their work interactions.
  • He jokingly refers to this interview as a “public interrogation” to learn more about Natalie and her work.
  • Timothy mentions noticing Natalie’s active presence on Twitter.

Using Twitter as a Platform

  • Timothy discusses the challenges of using Twitter to spread ideas effectively.
  • Natalie shares her experience and success in gaining followers and engagement on Twitter.
  • Being one of the first to reply to influential people’s tweets can lead to increased visibility and engagement.
  • Elon Musk is mentioned as an example, with his late-night tweeting habits providing opportunities for timely replies.

Study Notes

  • The Free Cities Podcast Episode 49 features a lighthearted chat with Natalie Danelishen from the Free Cities Foundation, recorded at Liberty In Our Lifetime conference.
  • Topics discussed include Ron Paul, the Mises Institute, ending the Fed, homeschooling, inflation, and spreading ideas of freedom on Twitter.
  • The Free Cities Foundation has recently published three new books: an updated version of “Free Private Cities” by Titus Gebel, “Strategies for Liberty: Free Cities and Bitcoin” by Alex Vos, and “Entrepreneurial Communities: An Alternative to the State” by Calvin Dukes. These books are available on their website.
  • Timothy interviews Natalie about her background and experiences working for the Free Cities Foundation. They also discuss using Twitter as a platform for spreading ideas effectively.

07:00 The Challenge of Posting on Social Media

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses their reluctance to post on social media platforms like Twitter and the challenge of finding motivation to engage with followers.

Lack of Motivation to Post

  • The speaker admits to rarely posting on Twitter due to a lack of interest and motivation.
  • Despite having a significant number of followers, they struggle to find the desire to share content regularly.
  • They express uncertainty about how to make themselves want to post more frequently.

Being Authentic on Social Media

  • The speaker suggests that one can simply tweet about things they are passionate about or be themselves without feeling the need for professional content.
  • They mention being rambunctious and wild at times, sharing personal aspects alongside their message.

Engagement and Growth

  • The speaker acknowledges that once you start getting your message out there, it attracts people who want to help spread it further.
  • They emphasize the importance of engaging with followers and eliciting reactions from them, even if it means making some people angry or disagreeing with you.

08:50 Using Twitter as a Platform for Thought-Provoking Content

Section Overview: This section focuses on the impact of thought-provoking tweets and how simplicity can be effective in conveying messages on Twitter.

Thought-Provoking Tweets

  • The speaker mentions an example tweet they found impressive, which highlighted cultural appropriation during Halloween.
  • They discuss the power of thought-provoking tweets in challenging perspectives and making people think differently.

Keeping Tweets Simple

  • The speaker emphasizes that tweets don’t have to be complex or philosophical; being oneself and delivering a clear message is sufficient.
  • Their goal is not necessarily changing hearts and minds but rather encouraging people to consider alternative viewpoints or solutions.

09:47 The Limitations of Twitter in Changing Perspectives

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker expresses doubts about the ability of Twitter to change hearts and minds and shares their personal experience with consuming content on the platform.

Limited Impact on Changing Perspectives

  • The speaker admits that they don’t believe their tweets have a significant impact on changing people’s opinions.
  • They explain that when reading tweets, they already have preconceived notions, making it difficult for new ideas to profoundly influence them.

Making People Think

  • Despite not expecting to change hearts and minds, the speaker aims to make people think differently or consider alternative approaches through their tweets.
  • They mention topics like competing currencies and abolishing the Federal Reserve as examples of thought-provoking content.

11:21 Messing with Ideologically Captured Individuals on Twitter

Section Overview: This section delves into the speaker’s enjoyment of engaging with ideologically captured individuals on Twitter and the potential benefits and consequences of such interactions.

Engaging with Ideologically Captured Individuals

  • The speaker finds it entertaining to engage with individuals who are strongly attached to certain ideologies, particularly those on the left.
  • They describe it as a game of moves and counter-moves, where they question others’ actions and enjoy challenging their perspectives.

Achieving Reactions and Attention

  • The speaker shares instances where they successfully garnered attention by provoking reactions from prominent figures like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
  • While acknowledging that these interactions may not necessarily change hearts and minds, they highlight how such engagements can attract followers and generate interest in their account.

Please note that these summaries are based solely on the provided transcript.

12:37 Focusing on the People on the Fence

Section Overview: The speaker acknowledges that there are people who already have a negative opinion of them and accepts that they cannot change their minds. Instead, they focus on engaging with people who are undecided or open to different perspectives.

Engaging with Different Perspectives

  • The speaker recognizes that some individuals may already hold strong negative opinions about them, such as calling them a Nazi or Hitler.
  • They accept that changing the minds of these individuals is unlikely and focus their efforts on engaging with people who are undecided or open to different perspectives.

12:55 Putting Yourself Out There

Section Overview: The speaker emphasizes the importance of putting oneself out there and shares personal experiences of connecting with influential individuals through platforms like Twitter.

Building Connections through Twitter

  • The speaker highlights the power of putting oneself out there and engaging with others on platforms like Twitter.
  • They mention having conservative friends but also emphasize the value of connecting with people from various backgrounds.
  • The speaker shares an example of meeting Rob Schneider, a famous American actor, through Twitter.
  • They discuss some movies Rob Schneider has been in, including Deuce Bigalow and various Adam Sandler films.

13:30 Meeting Influential Individuals

Section Overview: The speaker continues discussing their experiences meeting influential individuals through social media platforms like Twitter.

Connecting with Thomas Massie and Others

  • The speaker mentions meeting Thomas Massie, a congressman, through Twitter.
  • They express gratitude for being able to meet senators and other influential figures by leveraging social media connections.
  • The speaker highlights how Twitter provides an even playing field for communication if one is not blocked by others.
  • They acknowledge that making an effort is necessary to get one’s voice heard but emphasize that nothing in life comes easy.

15:07 The Power of Twitter and Support for Elon Musk

Section Overview: The speaker discusses the impact of Twitter as a platform for expressing opinions and shares their support for Elon Musk.

Twitter as an Equalizer

  • The speaker emphasizes that Twitter provides an equal playing field for communication, allowing anyone to reply to others and share their voice.
  • They acknowledge that making an effort is necessary but highlight the potential impact one can have on the platform.

Support for Elon Musk

  • The speaker reveals their support for Elon Musk, mentioning that they were initially skeptical but have seen him evolve into a proponent of freedom over the years.
  • They mention subscribing to Elon’s tweets and express admiration for his commitment to bringing back banned individuals on Twitter.
  • The speaker acknowledges that some individuals, like Alex Jones, were not brought back due to personal reasons known only to Elon.

17:28 Discussion about Alex Jones

Section Overview: The speaker engages in a discussion about Alex Jones and Elon Musk’s decision not to bring him back on Twitter.

Alex Jones’ Controversial Statements

  • The speaker mentions that Alex Jones made controversial statements regarding the Sandy Hook shooting, claiming it was a hoax and children did not die.
  • They clarify that Elon Musk disagreed with these statements, particularly because he has children himself.
  • The speaker acknowledges that while they sometimes agree with Alex Jones, they understand why Elon chose not to bring him back on Twitter.

Note: This summary covers selected portions of the transcript.

18:23 Alex Jones and Elon Musk

Section Overview: This section discusses the views on Alex Jones and Elon Musk, their influence, and why people want to ban them.

Views on Alex Jones

  • Alex Jones is known for his controversial statements and conspiracy theories.
  • Some find him entertaining but don’t consider him dangerous.
  • The desire to ban Alex Jones stems from a desire for complete control of the narrative.

Views on Elon Musk

  • Elon Musk is seen as someone who supports free speech.
  • However, he has also faced criticism and battles due to various controversies.
  • Similar to Alex Jones, people are going after Elon Musk for different reasons.

19:59 Free Speech Argument

Section Overview: This section explores the concept of free speech and its limitations in society.

Free Speech vs. Hate Speech

  • The argument for free speech allows individuals to express their opinions without restrictions, except when inciting harm or violence.
  • While hate speech is protected under free speech, it can still cause damage in society.
  • The question arises whether banning someone like Alex Jones is due to hate speech or other reasons.

21:31 Private Property Rights

Section Overview: This section delves into the idea of private property rights in relation to online platforms.

Platform Ownership and Control

  • Online platforms like Twitter (referred to as “x” in the transcript) are considered private property owned by individuals or companies.
  • Owners have the right to control what content is allowed on their platforms.
  • Comparisons are made between personal property rights and platform ownership rights.

22:35 Freedom of Expression vs. Hate Speech

Section Overview: This section discusses the balance between freedom of expression and hate speech.

Freedom to Hate

  • The concept of freedom of expression includes the freedom to hate, although there are legal limitations.
  • Court rulings have addressed the boundaries between free speech and hate speech.
  • Alex Jones does not own the platform (Twitter), so Elon Musk has the right to ban him if he chooses.

23:20 Elon Musk’s Perspective

Section Overview: This section explores possible reasons why Elon Musk would ban Alex Jones.

Personal Values and Concerns

  • Elon Musk is known for being a family-oriented person with strong opinions on societal issues.
  • He advocates for pro-life, pro-human, and having more children.
  • It is speculated that concerns about Alex Jones involving children may have influenced Musk’s decision.

Note: The transcript ends abruptly, leaving some questions unanswered.

24:21 Starting a Family and Watching Children Grow

Section Overview: The speaker reflects on their desire to have children at a young age and the joy they feel in being a parent. They discuss the experience of watching their children grow up, including their son who recently graduated high school.

Becoming a Parent

  • The speaker had a strong desire to have children when they were young.
  • Having kids was one of their top priorities in life.
  • Despite being only 36 years old, their son is already 17 and has graduated high school.

Watching Children Grow

  • The speaker’s eldest daughter has recently started secondary school and has already begun to change and gain independence.
  • While the speaker loves their daughter, they acknowledge that this transition is natural but also bittersweet.
  • They anticipate future changes as their other children grow older and become more independent.

25:46 Working for the Mises Institute and Libertarianism

Section Overview: The speaker discusses how they ended up working for the Mises Institute and becoming involved in libertarianism. They mention their support for Ron Paul and his impact on introducing libertarian ideas to Americans.

Working for the Mises Institute

  • The speaker started working for the Mises Institute many years ago after volunteering with them.
  • They have been associated with the institute for about 11 years in total.

Introduction to Libertarianism

  • Although not a card-carrying libertarian, the speaker supports Ron Paul and the efforts of the Mises Caucus.
  • Their interest in libertarianism was sparked by learning about Ron Paul during his presidential campaign in 2006/2007.
  • Ron Paul’s message resonated with them, particularly his views on currency, ending wars, and abolishing the Federal Reserve.

27:01 Ron Paul’s Impact and Political Background

Section Overview: The speaker discusses Ron Paul’s significance in American politics and his background as a doctor and congressman. They also mention the impact of Ron Paul’s message on libertarian ideas.

Ron Paul’s Influence

  • Ron Paul is known for delivering over 4,000 babies as a doctor before entering Congress.
  • He served on and off in Congress, advocating for peace and liberty.
  • The speaker became interested in libertarianism through learning about Ron Paul’s ideas during his presidential campaigns.

European Perception of Ron Paul

  • While many Americans were introduced to libertarian ideas through Ron Paul, his influence may not be as widely recognized in Europe.
  • The speaker acknowledges that even in America, not everyone knows who Ron Paul is, but he has a significant following.
  • They highlight the fact that Ron Paul continues to promote liberty through various platforms such as podcasts and the Ron Paul Institute.

29:13 Thomas Massie and Libertarian Republicans

Section Overview: The speaker discusses Thomas Massie, a Republican politician who shares libertarian views. They express curiosity about how Massie can openly criticize the Federal Reserve without facing consequences within the Republican Party.

Thomas Massie’s Stance

  • Thomas Massie is known for his criticism of the Federal Reserve.
  • The speaker admires Massie’s ability to spread his message while being part of the Republican Party.
  • They speculate about whether Massie may face any repercussions or be on some kind of “blackmail list” due to his outspoken views.

Importance of Peace Message

  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of promoting peace throughout the years, which both Ron Paul and Thomas Massie have advocated for.
  • They believe that this message has been crucial but also lacking in political discourse.

30:30 From Groundskeeper to Chef

Section Overview: The speaker talks about their career journey, starting as a groundskeeper and later becoming a chef. They also mention speaking on RT television during their time in Washington, DC.

Career Journey

  • Started as a groundskeeper at Auburn University.
  • Worked their way up from being a gardener.
  • After two years, they moved to Washington, DC and worked as a chef for a few years.
  • During this time, they were asked to speak on RT television.
  • Eventually, they had to move back to Ohio to take care of family.

30:52 Transitioning Careers

Section Overview: The speaker discusses leaving the Mises Institute and transitioning into the role of a chef. They also mention not applying what they learned from the Mises Institute in their culinary career.

Transitioning Careers

  • Left the Mises Institute and started working as a chef in Washington, DC.
  • Did not apply what they learned from the Mises Institute in their culinary career.

31:13 Speaking on RT Television

Section Overview: The speaker shares their experience of being asked to speak on RT television while working as a chef in Washington, DC.

Speaking on RT Television

  • While working as a chef in Washington, DC, they were asked to speak on RT television.
  • Found it fascinating to have the opportunity to do some liberty-related work during that time.

31:39 Returning to Ohio for Family Reasons

Section Overview: The speaker explains how they had to move back to Ohio due to family circumstances and took a break from their career.

Returning Home

  • Moved back to Ohio after their grandmother fell ill.
  • Needed to support their mom and dad during that time.
  • Took a break from their career to focus on family responsibilities.

32:10 Memes and Joining the Mises Institute

Section Overview: The speaker discusses their transition into creating memes and how it led to them joining the Mises Institute.

Creating Memes

  • Started making quote memes featuring Austrian economists.
  • Continued creating memes for about two years.
  • Jeff Deist, the president of the Mises Institute, noticed their memes and decided to hire them.
  • Got hired by the Mises Institute without previously knowing they had worked there before.

32:32 Working at the Mises Institute

Section Overview: The speaker talks about their experience working at the Mises Institute as a contractor and being involved in media outreach.

Working at the Mises Institute

  • Worked as a contractor at the Mises Institute, not as staff.
  • Involved in media outreach and other tasks beyond creating memes.
  • Found it to be a fun experience over the years.

32:51 Libertarian Messaging Challenges

Section Overview: The speaker discusses challenges faced by libertarians in effectively communicating their message and suggests focusing on common enemies rather than internal divisions.

Challenges in Libertarian Messaging

  • Libertarians are often considered ineffective in getting their message across.
  • Being reactive towards fellow libertarians instead of focusing on common enemies is seen as a problem.
  • Suggests redirecting attention towards criticizing state actions rather than internal divisions within libertarian circles.

33:13 Getting Freedom Message Out There

Section Overview: The speaker shares insights on effectively spreading the message of freedom and highlights what they do differently compared to some libertarians.

Spreading Freedom Message

  • Avoid discussing controversial topics like lowering age of consent, which can be seen as creepy.
  • Emphasizes the importance of focusing on pressing issues like inflation and government overreach.
  • Highlights the need to address real-life struggles faced by people, such as rising costs and devalued currency.
  • Mentions libertarians who are successful in getting the message out, such as Peter St. Onge and Wall Street Silver.

33:58 Prioritizing Important Issues

Section Overview: The speaker emphasizes the importance of prioritizing significant issues that affect people’s lives rather than focusing on less impactful matters.

Prioritizing Important Issues

  • Urges libertarians to focus on critical problems like inflation and economic hardships.
  • Criticizes discussions about trivial matters while major issues go unaddressed.
  • Encourages raising awareness about the impact of inflation on everyday life.

34:55 Communicating Message Effectively

Section Overview: The speaker highlights the need for libertarians to effectively communicate their message by addressing real-life struggles faced by individuals.

Effective Communication

  • Stresses the importance of understanding and addressing the challenges people face due to inflation and economic difficulties.
  • Expresses concern about potential hyperinflation in the future.
  • Encourages libertarians to put more effort into spreading these messages rather than getting caught up in internal debates.

36:06 Promoting Freedom Message Online

Section Overview: The speaker mentions individuals who are successfully promoting freedom messages online through videos and social media accounts.

Promoting Freedom Online

  • Acknowledges individuals like Peter St. Onge and Wall Street Silver who effectively spread freedom messages through videos and social media platforms.
  • Notes that these voices sometimes get overshadowed by discussions about minor controversies within libertarian circles.


Section Overview: This section discusses the different communication styles between Jeremy and the speaker, as well as the challenges faced in the libertarian movement due to internal conflicts.

Communication Styles and Challenges in the Libertarian Movement

  • The speaker describes Jeremy as being good at getting messages out, but more reactionary than themselves.
  • The speaker tries to keep things fun, while Jeremy leans towards dark humor.
  • There is a lot of behind-the-scenes backstabbing within the libertarian movement, which hinders progress.
  • Many individuals claim to love liberty but end up causing more problems within the movement.
  • Similar issues exist in other political parties like conservatives, with backstabbing and hate prevalent.


Section Overview: This section addresses where someone interested in liberty should go for guidance and education.

Seeking Guidance on Liberty

  • The speaker suggests turning to books by influential figures such as Mises, Rothbard, and Hayek.
  • Despite criticisms of these individuals being old white men, their knowledge and insights are valuable.
  • Austrian economics is highly recommended by the speaker.
  • The example of a politician’s failed prediction highlights the importance of learning from past thinkers.


Section Overview: This section delves into Ludwig von Mises’ experiences during World War II and his dedication to principles despite adversity.

Ludwig von Mises’ Dedication

  • Mises was on the Nazi Blacklist due to his ideas that went against their ideology.
  • He had to flee from them with his wife and seek refuge in Switzerland.
  • Mises believed all his papers were lost during this time but they were later found by Richard Ebling and his wife at Haldale College.
  • Despite facing hatred and persecution for standing on principle, Mises remained dedicated throughout his life.


Section Overview: The speaker shares their motivation for taking action and emphasizes the need for others to recognize the urgency of the situation.

Taking Action and Urgency

  • The speaker’s motivation stems from having children and not being able to passively watch societal issues unfold.
  • They express frustration with people who fail to see what is happening or take action.
  • The focus should be on stopping negative developments rather than engaging in pointless fights within corners.
  • Ending the Federal Reserve (Fed) is seen as crucial, as it perpetuates problems like inflation, facilitates wars, and grants unchecked power to Congress.


Section Overview: This section explores the potential outcomes after ending the Federal Reserve.

After Ending the Federal Reserve

  • When asked about what would replace the Fed, Thomas Sowell responded by comparing it to removing cancer – there is no need for a replacement.
  • The speaker emphasizes that it is up to the free market to determine what comes next, not individuals like themselves.
  • Corrupt individuals created the Fed on Jekyll Island, which further highlights its problematic nature.

43:03 Understanding the Purpose of the Federal Reserve

Section Overview: The speaker discusses their confusion about why large buildings are referred to as “cottages” and then transitions into a conversation about the Federal Reserve (FED). They mention listening to a podcast about the FED and express their desire to hear from someone within that world. The speaker acknowledges that while there are free market theories suggesting that ending the FED would be beneficial, they believe that doing so abruptly would result in chaos. They mention that currently, the FED serves as a lender of last resort during times of crisis.

Exploring the Role of the Federal Reserve

  • The creation of the Federal Reserve was intended to serve a purpose, such as being a lender of last resort during financial crises.
  • While some argue for ending the FED based on free market theories, abruptly doing so could lead to chaotic consequences.
  • Although it may be kicking the can down the road, in the short run, relying on the FED’s support during crises can provide temporary relief.

44:27 Anticipating Hyperinflation and Economic Challenges

Section Overview: The speaker expresses concerns about hyperinflation and its potential consequences. They believe that people will suffer greatly due to food inflation and suggest that we may already be in a recession. The speaker mentions witnessing college-age individuals struggling financially and predicts even more severe hardships in the future.

Impending Hyperinflation and Economic Hardships

  • Hyperinflation is anticipated, which could lead to starvation and death.
  • Signs indicate that we may already be in a recession, despite official reports stating otherwise.
  • College-age individuals are already struggling financially, with some unable to afford basic necessities like rent.
  • Ending or reforming the Federal Reserve is seen as necessary but will likely involve painful adjustments.

45:59 Proposing an Audit of the Federal Reserve

Section Overview: The speaker suggests starting the process of ending or reforming the Federal Reserve by conducting an audit. They highlight the lack of transparency regarding where money is going and coming from within the FED. Additionally, they mention that ownership of the FED is not entirely clear, but speculate that influential figures such as the Rockefellers and Soros may have a stake in it.

Steps Towards Ending or Reforming the Federal Reserve

  • Conducting an audit of the Federal Reserve would provide much-needed transparency.
  • The current lack of clarity regarding ownership raises questions about who truly controls the FED.
  • Speculation suggests that influential individuals like the Rockefellers and Soros may have involvement with the FED.
  • Breaking away from established narratives, such as Elon Musk has done, can lead to intense backlash from those in power.

46:59 Challenging Established Narratives and Political Figures

Section Overview: The speaker discusses how individuals like Elon Musk and Donald Trump faced opposition for challenging established narratives. They mention personal connections to influential circles and share insights about how certain groups come together despite their differences. The speaker expresses disappointment with some actions taken by Donald Trump but acknowledges his ability to make Hillary Clinton irrelevant.

Challenging Established Narratives and Political Figures

  • Elon Musk and Donald Trump faced significant opposition for breaking away from established narratives.
  • Personal connections reveal unexpected friendships among influential individuals at higher levels.
  • Despite personal opinions on specific actions, Donald Trump’s ability to challenge Hillary Clinton’s relevance was appreciated.
  • There is a secretive society with deep historical roots that operates according to its own set of rules.

48:35 Tiredness with Politics and Focus on Personal Preparedness

Section Overview: The speaker expresses exhaustion with politics and a lack of interest in the outcome of future elections. They emphasize the importance of personal preparedness, such as stocking up on ammunition, due to uncertainties in the current socio-economic climate.

Fatigue with Politics and Emphasis on Personal Preparedness

  • The speaker is tired and disinterested in political outcomes.
  • Personal preparedness, including stocking up on ammunition, is seen as crucial given the uncertain future.
  • Focusing on individual actions rather than relying solely on political changes is emphasized.

49:36(t=2976s) Preparing for the End Times

Section Overview: The speaker discusses how they have prepared their children for the end times by teaching them survival skills and making their own mittens.

Teaching Survival Skills

  • The speaker’s children are prepared for the end times by learning survival skills.
  • They have taught their children to make their own mittens.

49:55(t=2995s) Elon Musk’s Plan to Colonize Space

Section Overview: The speaker discusses Elon Musk’s plan to establish a colony on Mars and how no one can stop him due to his financial resources.

Establishing a Colony on Mars

  • Elon Musk plans to visit space and establish a colony before anyone else.
  • His financial resources make it difficult for anyone to prevent him from achieving this goal.

50:14(t=3014s) Free Cities in Space

Section Overview: The speaker talks about the concept of free cities in space and how it aligns with Elon Musk’s plans.

Free Cities Project in Space

  • The idea of free cities can be extended to space colonization.
  • Creating free cities in space could be an exciting possibility.

50:30(t=3030s) Hotels in Space by 2030?

Section Overview: The speaker mentions an article discussing the possibility of hotels in space by 2030 and expresses excitement about future developments.

Future Developments in Space Tourism

  • There are discussions about the potential development of hotels in space by 2030 or later.
  • While it may seem soon, there is anticipation for advancements in space tourism.

50:47(t=3047s) Utilizing Ocean and Space Resources

Section Overview: The speaker emphasizes the importance of utilizing both ocean and space resources and highlights Elon Musk’s ability to utilize space.

Utilizing Ocean and Space Resources

  • The speaker believes that both ocean and space resources should be utilized.
  • Elon Musk has the capability to make use of space resources effectively.

51:06(t=3066s) Space as the Final Frontier

Section Overview: The speaker expresses their personal connection to space exploration, referencing Star Trek, and supports Elon Musk’s endeavors in space colonization.

Space Exploration and Personal Connection

  • The speaker mentions their love for Star Trek and how it represents the idea of space being the final frontier.
  • They support Elon Musk’s efforts in exploring space and hope he succeeds in his projects.

51:25(t=3085s) Joining Free Cities Project

Section Overview: The speaker shares how they got involved with the free cities project through a recommendation from someone named Robert Arrow.

Getting Involved with Free Cities Project

  • The speaker was recommended for a position in the free cities project by Robert Arrow.
  • They attended an event called Liberty In Our Lifetime last year, which led to their interest in joining the project.

51:45(t=3105s) Appendicitis During Interview

Section Overview: The speaker recounts an incident where they had appendicitis on the day of their interview for the free cities project.

Appendicitis Incident during Interview

  • On the day of their interview, the speaker experienced appendicitis.
  • They had to reschedule their interview due to this unexpected health issue.

52:03(t=3123s) Support for Free Societies Worldwide

Section Overview: The speaker expresses their belief in creating free societies worldwide and emphasizes the need for smaller communities with more freedom.

Creating Free Societies Worldwide

  • The speaker believes that free societies should be established across the world.
  • They advocate for smaller government and more freedom in smaller communities.

52:28(t=3148s) Free State Project and Jeremy’s Situation

Section Overview: The speaker shares their thoughts on the Free State Project and expresses concerns about how they are treating someone named Jeremy.

Thoughts on Free State Project

  • The speaker generally supports the Free State Project but criticizes their treatment of Jeremy.
  • They have not personally been interested in joining due to the need to relocate their family.

52:51(t=3171s) Need for More Freedom-Minded Communities

Section Overview: The speaker emphasizes the importance of creating more freedom-minded communities across the world.

Importance of Freedom-Minded Communities

  • The speaker believes that there is a need for more freedom-minded communities globally.
  • They express a desire for a closer connection between citizens and politicians in everyday life.

53:13(t=3193s) Lessons from Free State Project

Section Overview: The speaker reflects on lessons learned from observing the Free State Project and discusses voluntary movement as a better approach than mandatory relocation.

Lessons from Free State Project

  • Encouraging voluntary movement is preferable to mandatory relocation.
  • Offering products, services, and freedom can be a compelling selling point instead of urging people to move somewhere specific.

53:31(t=3211s) Living in Ohio

Section Overview: The speaker talks about living in Ohio and expresses a preference for keeping it less known to maintain its uniqueness.

Living in Ohio

  • The speaker lives in Ohio and prefers it to remain less known.
  • They enjoy having Ohio all to themselves without an influx of people moving there.

53:51(t=3231s) Personal Opinion on Freedom-Minded Movements

Section Overview: The speaker shares their personal opinion on freedom-minded movements and the balance between smaller and larger government.

Personal Opinion on Freedom-Minded Movements

  • The speaker supports the idea of smaller government and more freedom in communities.
  • They believe that a balance needs to be struck between individual freedom and effective governance.

54:07(t=3247s) Voluntary Movement vs. Mandatory Relocation

Section Overview: The speaker discusses the advantages of voluntary movement over mandatory relocation in freedom-minded movements.

Advantages of Voluntary Movement

  • Encouraging voluntary movement allows individuals to have more agency and avoids potential negative consequences if things don’t work out.
  • Offering attractive products, services, and freedom can be a better approach than mandating relocation.

54:25(t=3265s) Freedom-Minded Environment in Ohio

Section Overview: The speaker talks about living in Ohio and whether it is a freedom-minded environment.

Living in Ohio as a Freedom-Minded Environment

  • The speaker lives in Ohio but does not provide specific information about its level of being a freedom-minded environment.
  • Their preference for keeping Ohio less known suggests they appreciate certain aspects of its current state.

54:44(t=3284s) Conclusion

Section Overview: The transcript ends abruptly without any concluding remarks or final thoughts from the speaker.

55:30 Ohio’s Lockdown and Concerns about World War III

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses Ohio’s response to lifting lockdown measures and masks. They express concerns about potential conflicts and the need to prepare for uncertain times.

Ohio’s Response to Lockdown Measures

  • Ohio was one of the last states to lift lockdown measures and mask mandates.
  • The situation in Ohio became increasingly worse over time.
  • The speaker mentions Governor Mike DeWine as being in charge during this period.

Concerns about World War III

  • The speaker expresses their belief that now is not the time for “voting with your feet” or moving away from potential conflict zones.
  • They believe it is important to prepare for what they see as impending challenges.
  • Potential threats mentioned include the possibility of World War III starting suddenly.
  • Ohio has several military bases that could be targeted at any time, making them vulnerable.

56:15 Personal Reasons for Preparing for Uncertain Times

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker explains their personal reasons for preparing for uncertain times, including concerns about disruptions to food supply and potential invasions.

Personal Reasons for Preparing

  • The speaker describes themselves as someone who prepares for the worst and prefers to bunker down rather than vote with their feet.
  • They mention having three children as a reason to prioritize their safety and well-being.
  • Concerns are raised about potential disruptions to food supply, particularly targeting farmland populations in Ohio.

57:00 Speculating on Potential Invaders and Enemies

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker speculates on potential invaders or enemies that could pose a threat to Ohio. They discuss various possibilities based on current events.

Speculations on Potential Invaders

  • The speaker mentions that it is difficult to predict who might invade Ohio, but suggests Russia, Ukraine, or even Mexico as potential threats.
  • They highlight the influx of immigrants from the borders as a factor to consider.
  • The speaker expresses frustration with the continuous cycle of wars and conflicts initiated by governments.

58:21 Making Enemies and Criticizing Past Administrations

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the consequences of making enemies through military actions and criticizes past administrations for their involvement in conflicts.

Consequences of Making Enemies

  • The speaker argues that America’s actions have resulted in making numerous enemies around the world.
  • They suggest that these enemies could eventually turn against America itself.
  • The speaker emphasizes that bombing other countries only fuels hatred towards America.

Criticizing Past Administrations

  • The speaker questions how many people were killed during Obama’s presidency and previous administrations.
  • They criticize those in power for enjoying a sense of power lust while condemning others for similar actions.
  • Specific operations such as Operation Enduring Freedom and the War on Terror are mentioned.

01:00:08 Ending the Fed and Its Potential Impact

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses their core belief in ending the Federal Reserve (Fed) and explores different ways to achieve this goal. They also touch upon Bitcoin as a potential tool for challenging the Fed.

Ending the Federal Reserve (Fed)

  • The speaker believes there are several ways to end the Fed, including promoting competing currencies.
  • Bitcoin is mentioned as a tool that can be used to attack and challenge the Fed’s control over monetary systems.
  • However, they express concerns about central bank digital currencies (CBDCs) potentially being introduced by the Federal Reserve.

Impact of Ending the Fed

  • While ending the Fed may not solve all the world’s problems, it could lead to longer life spans for men.
  • The speaker acknowledges that ending the Fed is a significant step but not a cure-all solution.

Note: The transcript provided does not cover the entire video.

01:01:57 Competing Currencies and the Power of the Federal Reserve

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the power of central banks, particularly the Federal Reserve, in creating money. They also mention that a collapse of the dollar may be necessary for people to realize the impact of the Federal Reserve.

  • The power of central banks, including the Federal Reserve, lies in their ability to create money.
  • A collapse of the dollar may be needed for people to understand how powerful and influential the Federal Reserve is.

01:02:20 Challenges in Ending the Federal Reserve

Section Overview: This section focuses on why it is challenging to end or change the role of the Federal Reserve.

  • The problem with ending or changing the role of the Federal Reserve is that it is widely accepted and supported by many individuals and institutions.
  • It would require a significant shift in mindset and support from various circles to make any changes to the current system.

01:02:38 Dollar Collapse and Awareness about the Federal Reserve

Section Overview: Here, it is discussed that a total collapse of the dollar might be necessary for people to fully comprehend how impactful and problematic the Federal Reserve can be. The speaker mentions their personal preparations for such an event.

  • A complete collapse of the dollar could potentially lead to increased awareness about how detrimental the actions of the Federal Reserve can be.
  • The speaker has been preparing their children for this possibility for several years due to their belief in an eventual collapse.

01:02:58 Dollar Hyperinflation and Potential Shift Away from Dollar Usage

Section Overview: This section explores dollar hyperinflation as a potential scenario. It also discusses how a decrease in global usage of dollars could lead to alternative currencies and potentially challenge the dominance of the Federal Reserve.

  • Dollar hyperinflation is considered unlikely due to the current global capacity to absorb dollar liquidity.
  • However, if people start using the dollar less frequently in various markets worldwide, it could lead to the emergence of competing currencies and a potential challenge to the Federal Reserve’s influence.

01:03:22 Competing Currencies and Foreign Influence

Section Overview: The speaker discusses how the emergence of competing currencies could result in being beholden to a foreign central bank. They also mention the potential benefits of promoting alternative currencies like Bitcoin within a country.

  • If competing currencies arise, there is a possibility of becoming dependent on a foreign central bank.
  • Promoting alternative currencies like Bitcoin within a country can be beneficial and reduce reliance on centralized institutions.

01:03:54 Presidential Candidates and Bitcoin

Section Overview: This section highlights how some presidential candidates in America have expressed support for Bitcoin. It also mentions early adopters of Bitcoin, such as Ron Paul.

  • Some American presidential candidates, including Robert Kennedy, have shown support for Bitcoin.
  • Ron Paul was an early adopter of Bitcoin and played a role in introducing it to many people through his discussions at organizations like the Mises Institute.

01:05:20 Second Generation Homeschooler

Section Overview: The speaker shares their experience as a second-generation homeschooler and explains why their mother chose homeschooling initially.

  • The speaker’s mother decided to homeschool them after an incident involving prayer in public school.
  • The speaker briefly describes their religious upbringing and their exposure to both Episcopalian and Catholic practices through family members.

01:06:08 Transition from Public School to Homeschooling

Section Overview: This section delves into the speaker’s transition from public school to homeschooling and their subsequent return to public school for a brief period.

  • After being homeschooled for some time, the speaker decided to try returning to public school in seventh grade but found it to be a negative experience.
  • The speaker faced challenges such as disruptive behavior, fights, and feeling unsafe in the public school environment.

Note: The transcript continues beyond this point, but the provided sections cover the main topics discussed.

01:08:23 Homeschooling and Education Choices

Section Overview: The speaker discusses their decision to homeschool their children and the different approaches to homeschooling.

Homeschooling Approach

  • The speaker made a promise to homeschool their children if they wanted, but public school was also an option.
  • Due to budget constraints, private school was not feasible.
  • The speaker followed a middle-of-the-road approach, combining book schooling with field trips to places like Science Centers and Art Museums.
  • Engaging children in various activities such as baking was considered part of the learning process.

Benefits of Homeschooling

  • Homeschooling can be done efficiently even for short durations each day.
  • Homeschooled children tend to be more polite, better adjusted, and often outperform their peers academically.
  • Socialization is not an issue as homeschooled children have opportunities to interact with other kids through activities like horse farming, Taekwondo, Boy Scouts, and Civil Air Patrol. They can also play with kids in the neighborhood.

01:11:23 Changes in Homeschooling Laws

Section Overview: The speaker discusses changes in homeschooling laws and assessments required for homeschooled students.

Assessment Requirements

  • In Ohio, where the speaker homeschools their children, annual assessments by professional teachers were mandatory for several years.
  • Assessments were used to evaluate the students’ progress or they could opt for testing instead.
  • However, due to COVID-19 pandemic (Co), assessments were suspended for three years.

Recent Changes in Laws

  • A new law has been implemented that eliminates the need for annual assessments. Now parents only need to submit a letter of intent stating they are homeschooling.
  • This change applies only to homeschoolers; students attending traditional schools still have exams and assessments.
  • The speaker may still choose to have their children undergo testing to gauge their progress and compare with peers.

01:13:33 Socialization and Homeschooling Programs

Section Overview: The speaker addresses the misconception about socialization in homeschooling and highlights the availability of homeschooling programs for interaction.

Socialization of Homeschooled Children

  • The speaker refutes the criticism that homeschooled children lack socialization opportunities.
  • Their own children engage in various activities with other kids, such as horse farming, Taekwondo, Boy Scouts, Civil Air Patrol, and interacting with kids in the neighborhood.
  • The speaker emphasizes that even they have a large following on Twitter, indicating their own social interactions.

Homeschooling Programs

  • Nowadays, there are numerous homeschooling programs and workshops available that provide opportunities for homeschooled children to mingle with others.

01:14:54 The Decision to Join the Air Force

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses their son’s decision to join the Air Force and reflects on their family’s military background.

Son’s Decision and Family Military Background

  • The speaker’s son graduated at 16 and is now considering joining the Air Force instead of going to college. Despite not approving of this decision, the speaker supports their son.
  • The speaker’s son comes from a family with a strong military background. Their father and grandfather served in the Air Force, while their great-grandfather served in World War II.
  • The speaker initially questioned why their son would choose to join the military when they met prominent Libertarians at a young age. However, after considering other family members who also served in the military, they understand that it can come from a desire to protect rather than solely engage in combat.

01:15:59 Perspectives on War

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker shares their views on war and its impact on individuals and society.

Understanding War

  • The speaker mentions a book called “All Quiet on the Western Front” that explores themes of shared humanity among soldiers from different sides of a conflict.
  • They believe that wars are often started by leaders but fought by common people. They express that those who start wars should be held accountable.
  • Having witnessed friends suffer from PTSD and physical injuries due to war, the speaker emphasizes how destructive war can be for individuals.
  • A quote by Jeff Deist resonates with them, stating that war makes people accept atrocities and brings out the worst in humanity.

01:18:09 Changing Attitudes Towards War

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses changing attitudes towards war among younger generations.

Shifting Perspectives

  • The speaker acknowledges that the current generation has a different mindset compared to their grandparents’ generation, who willingly volunteered for wars.
  • They predict that if another world war were to occur, there would be a need for a draft as many young men today may not voluntarily sign up for military service.
  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of praying for peace and highlights the negative consequences of wartime, such as rationing and economic hardships.

01:19:52 Finding Hope in Innovation

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker shares their positive outlook on the future and finds hope in innovation.

Positive Outlook

  • The speaker finds inspiration in ongoing innovation happening both in their country and around the world.
  • They express admiration for projects and startups focused on freeing people from various constraints.
  • This focus on innovation gives them hope and restores positivity in their life.

01:20:57 Conclusion and Farewell

Section Overview: In this section, the conversation concludes with final remarks and well wishes.

Final Remarks

  • The host thanks the guest for participating in the podcast episode.
  • The guest expresses gratitude towards the host and conveys their appreciation for being part of the discussion.
  • The guest wishes good luck to the host with their upcoming speech or panel hosting responsibilities.