“Showing the bottom up potential of Free Cities is tremendous. I think of the brilliant Peruvian economist Hernando de Soto who talks about dead capital and how there’s knowledge distributed throughout the world. 

There are geniuses living in poor countries all over the world, but oftentimes they’re not able to really make much of their lives because of their dead capital, because their institutions don’t allow entrepreneurs to realise their potential. Not just for themselves, but for their communities and for the world. So many great inventions could be made that poor institutions are suppressing.

So I think that really emphasising that kind of opportunistic, social mobility messaging is what can make Free Cities really thrive.

casey given

This week on the podcast I had an excellent conersation with Casey Given.

Casey is the president and executive director of Young Voices which is a nonprofit agency that aims to cultivate the next generation of libertarian thought leaders in policy, journalism, and academia, or as Casey himself describes it, “A talent agency for heterodox thinkers”.

Casey has an interesting connection with the Free Cities movement through his undergrad student days and UC Berkley where he hosted a number of prominent seasteaders at the university’s libertarian club which he founded.

In this conversation, we discuss Young Voices’s strategy for creating change in the media, both the legacy version and the new media landscape of soundbites and social influencers. I’m also lucky enough to get some excellent advice from Casey on the best way to get the Free Cities narrative out there and into the mainstream.

All in all, this is a great conversation if, like me, you are sincerely interested in having a direct impact on hearts and minds. Many thanks to Casey for being so candid and accommodating with his time.

Enjoy the conversation.

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00:00 Introduction

Section Overview: The host introduces the Free Cities Podcast and the guest, Casey Given, who is the President and Executive Director of Young Voices.

Casey Given’s Background

  • Casey Given is the President and Executive Director of Young Voices.
  • He has a connection with the Free Cities movement through his time at UC Berkeley where he hosted prominent Seasteaders at the University’s Libertarian Club.

01:23 Strategy for Change in Media

Section Overview: The conversation focuses on Young Voices’ strategy for creating change in media, both in traditional legacy media and the new media landscape.

Young Voices’ Approach

  • Young Voices aims to cultivate the next generation of libertarian thought leaders in policy journalism and academia.
  • They operate as a talent agency for heterodox thinkers.
  • They have adapted to the new media landscape of soundbites and social influences.

02:48 Introduction to Casey Given

Section Overview: The host asks Casey Given to introduce himself and discuss his involvement with Young Voices.

Casey Given’s Role at Young Voices

  • Casey Given is the President and Executive Director of Young Voices.
  • He describes Young Voices as a nonprofit talent agency and PR firm for rising heterodox thinkers.
  • They operate without charging their customers, relying on donor support instead.

03:25 Heterodox Thinkers

Section Overview: The discussion revolves around defining “heterodox thinkers” and how it relates to Young Voices’ approach.

Definition of Heterodox Thinkers

  • Young Voices uses the term “heterodox” to encompass a broad range of voices within a classical liberal framework.
  • They welcome individuals who identify as libertarian, conservative, market liberals, etc., under this umbrella.
  • The term is used to create a big tent approach and welcome diverse perspectives.

04:40 Embracing Different Perspectives

Section Overview: The conversation explores the concept of embracing different perspectives within the heterodox framework.

Welcoming Different Types of Thinkers

  • Young Voices aims to welcome all different types of thinkers under the heterodox label.
  • They use the term to indicate openness to various ideologies and viewpoints.
  • The word “heterodox” suggests diversity and difference in thinking.

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Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of heterodox ideas and their acceptance in mainstream media.

Why are these ideas considered heterodox?

  • The speaker agrees that most of their colleagues have a certain political leaning.
  • They believe that the term “heterodox” is more acceptable in mainstream media as it implies openness to debate and different ideas.
  • Journalists, producers, etc., are theoretically more approachable when using the term “heterodox” compared to openly identifying as conservative or libertarian.


Section Overview: In this section, the speaker explains what Young Voices does on a daily basis.

What does Young Voices do?

  • Young Voices focuses on editing and pitching off ads, scheduling broadcast interviews (TV, radio, podcasts), and arranging public speaking engagements.
  • They recently launched a speaker’s bureau called “The Dissonant Project,” which aims to provide opportunities for immigrants who escaped tyrannical countries to speak at high schools and civic groups across the US.
  • Young Voices operates as a full-fledged talent agency using the nonprofit model to empower rising leaders for liberty.


Section Overview: This section explores how Young Voices started and expanded beyond student involvement.

Origins of Young Voices

  • Young Voices originated from Students For Liberty (SFL) in 2013 with the goal of bringing up SFL leaders in the media.
  • However, they soon realized that there were many individuals engaged in think tanks, budding journalists, academics, etc., who also needed professional development and platforms for their ideas.
  • As a result, Young Voices expanded its audience beyond students and became an independent project in 2016.


Section Overview: This section discusses how Young Voices finds new contributors.

Finding Young Voices

  • Word of mouth has been the most effective way for Young Voices to find new contributors.
  • Events like Liberty Cotton provide opportunities to make organic connections.
  • They also have a referral program where current writers can bring in new voices.
  • Due to offering free services that are typically expensive, they receive a high demand for their contributor program and usually receive over 100 applications per round.


Section Overview: This section explains the application process for becoming a Young Voices contributor.

Application Process

  • The main points of the application focus on ideological questions and gauging interest areas for writing and commentary.
  • Applicants are required to submit an unpublished writing sample and a short video introducing themselves and expressing their interest in joining Young Voices.
  • Writing skills are essential as it helps establish oneself as knowledgeable in a certain subject, which is crucial for TV broadcast and influencer development.


Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the evolving role of writing in contemporary media.

Evolving Role of Writing

  • Traditional commentary, journalism reporting, and writing are becoming shorter in length.
  • People now prefer shorter blog-type digest posts found on platforms like Substack or newsletters.
  • Young Voices aims to evolve its program to reflect these changes in media consumption patterns.

12:00 The Importance of Opportunities and Adaptation

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of providing opportunities to individuals and adapting to changes in the job market.

Focusing on Opportunities and Elite Approach

  • Providing opportunities is crucial for individuals.
  • There may be a shift towards a more elite approach in finding the best and brightest who can succeed in the changing world.
  • The speaker believes that there will always be a need for their program.

Job Market Evolution

  • The speaker disagrees with the notion that there will be fewer jobs.
  • They have witnessed the digital transformation of media throughout their career.
  • Speech revolutionized communication, facilitated by the internet.
  • While jobs may change, they won’t necessarily decrease in number.

Writing Skills as a Foundation

  • Writing skills are essential for success, even beyond journalism and media careers.
  • Most professionals struggle with forming coherent sentences.
  • Being proficient in writing sets individuals ahead of their competition.

Consistency and Competence

  • Establishing oneself as a competent writer/commentator/reporter opens up opportunities.
  • Consistency is key; regularly producing content increases visibility and competitiveness.
  • Woody Allen’s quote emphasizes the importance of showing up consistently.

15:39 Success Stories: Alumni Achievements

Section Overview: This section highlights some notable achievements of alumni who have benefited from the program.

Brad Palumbo and Hanukkahks

  • Brad Palumbo and Hanukkahks are alumni who founded their own media nonprofit called “Based Politics.”
  • They frequently appear on national outlets like Dr. Phil, engaging in debates on various topics.

Nate Hockman: Reporter to Speech Writer

  • Nate Hockman started as a reporter for National Review before becoming a speechwriter for Governor Ron DeSantis.
  • His career trajectory showcases potential growth within politics.

Academia Success: Alexander Salter

  • Alexander Salter, a professor at Texas Tech, secured a book deal with Cambridge University Press.
  • The program helped him get published in the Wall Street Journal multiple times.

Media Outlets and International Reach

  • The program has had success in placing alumni in prestigious media outlets such as Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Sky News, and various European outlets.

17:56 Reevaluating Mainstream Media’s Importance

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses their changing perspective on the significance of mainstream media.

Personal Media Consumption Habits

  • The speaker admits to not frequently consuming mainstream media like the Wall Street Journal or BBC.
  • They question the importance of getting into mainstream media for success.

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Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the evolving media landscape and the role of alternative platforms in providing unfiltered information. They also mention the influence of individual creators, such as Joe Rogan, in covering important stories.

The Evolution of Media

  • The mainstream media is often consumed for confirmation bias, with people tuning into specific outlets that align with their beliefs. This includes both traditional media like Fox News and MSNBC, as well as new platforms like Twitter and Substack. 19:10
  • Alternative mediums such as podcasts have gained popularity and can reach a larger audience than traditional news outlets like CNN. 19:58
  • There is a need for more young voices in these alternative mediums, and efforts have been made to empower new creators through programs like podcast accelerators. However, there is still room for growth in this area. 20:29

Personal Background and Inspiration

  • The speaker’s interest in libertarianism was sparked during the 2008 Republican primary debate where Ron Paul stood out. This led them to get involved with Students for Liberty during their time at Berkeley. 20:59
  • Youngsters today are particularly interested in environmental issues, which has become a major topic of discussion among progressive individuals pushing their agenda under the guise of environmentalism. It is important for free-market-oriented individuals to engage in this conversation and propose market-forward approaches rather than denying climate change altogether. 22:08
  • Besides environmentalism, tech innovation is another significant topic that young writers are interested in exploring. This includes areas such as content moderation, government regulation of tech companies, 5G broadband, and infrastructure development. 23:33


Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the coverage of tech-related topics by Young Voices. They touch upon subtopics like content moderation, anti-trust regulations, and infrastructure development.

Tech Coverage by Young Voices

  • Young Voices provides thorough coverage of various tech-related topics, including content moderation, anti-trust regulations, 5G broadband, and infrastructure development. 24:08
  • The focus is on proposing free-market approaches to address these issues rather than denying their significance. 24:13


Section Overview: This section discusses the impact of media on our lives and how technology has shaped our interactions with each other. The conversation also touches upon the influence of social media on teenagers and the power of narratives in connecting people.

Impact of Media and Technology

  • 25:07The subject of media and technology is fascinating as it shapes our media landscape and influences how we interact with each other.
  • 25:19The way teenagers interact as groups today is radically different from previous generations, according to personal experiences and observations.
  • 25:43During the pandemic, people became more tuned into certain narratives, which can be powerful for connecting individuals but also concerning when influenced by coercive forces or government propaganda.
  • 26:23Technology serves as a conduit for individuals to find a sense of belonging within specific communities or subgroups, both politically and socially.

Online Communities Forming in Real Life

  • 27:37The speaker shares their personal experience of connecting with people online during the pandemic and subsequently meeting them in real life.
  • 28:17While no specific examples are mentioned, the idea that online communities can manifest physically is discussed.
  • 28:43Contrasting Robert Putnam’s book “Bowling Alone,” which suggests increasing isolation due to individualization, there is optimism about how online connections have brought libertarians together at conferences like this one.

Balancing Online and Offline Interactions

  • 29:55The pandemic has highlighted that a complete reliance on an online life may not be fulfilling or desirable for many individuals.
  • 30:00As technology advances further, there will likely be increased temptation to spend more time online, potentially impacting offline interactions.
  • 30:50The speaker expresses a preference for in-person meetings and wonders if younger generations share the same sentiment.

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Section Overview: The speaker discusses the attitude of younger people towards leaving home and starting businesses. They also mention a shift in how younger people use the internet, with less focus on public pontification on platforms like Facebook or Twitter.

Attitude of Younger People

  • Younger people may be more satisfied and less interested in leaving home and starting businesses.
  • There seems to be a decrease in public pontification on platforms like Facebook or Twitter.

Shift in Internet Usage

  • Younger people are using different messaging platforms for more in-person interaction.
  • There is hope for more personal connections formed through the internet rather than just pontification, comparison, virtue signaling, and trolling.


Section Overview: The speaker reflects on their experience within the Liberty Movement since joining in 2009. They discuss both positive and negative changes they have observed over time.

Positive Changes

  • There are now more organizations and efforts within the Liberty Movement.
  • Students for Liberty is active in more countries than ever before.
  • Budgets and resources for libertarian groups have increased.
  • There is a growing interest in libertarian ideas globally.

Negative Changes

  • Some older donors express disappointment at the lack of mass popular movements for libertarian ideas.
  • Libertarian sparks often align with traditional right-wing or nationalistic ideologies.


Section Overview: The speaker explores why promoting libertarian ideas may not be gaining popularity as expected. They discuss human tribalism as a possible explanation for resistance to new ideological groups.

Human Tribalism

  • Humans have a natural inclination towards tribalism due to our survival instincts.
  • Forming communities based on tribalism creates challenges when trying to introduce new ideological groups like libertarians.
  • Overcoming the right-left dichotomy is difficult in creating a new group of libertarians.


Section Overview: The speaker shares their personal perspective on the future of the Liberty Movement and reflects on managing expectations. They discuss the long game and potential reasons for slow progress.

Managing Expectations

  • Some older donors may need to manage their expectations about the growth of the Liberty Movement.
  • The speaker personally believes it is a long game and acknowledges that progress may take time.
  • Libertarian ideas may not be gaining popularity as expected due to various factors.

Reasons for Slow Progress

  • Libertarian ideas may seem obvious to some, but humans are inherently tribal, which can hinder acceptance of new ideologies.
  • Tribalism leads people to define themselves against others, making it challenging to create a new group like libertarians.
  • The speaker has shifted away from the belief that everyone is secretly libertarian, recognizing the complexities of human nature.

Note: This summary provides an overview of key points discussed in the transcript. It is important to refer back to the original transcript for complete context and understanding.

37:38 The Role of Libertarians in Political Strategy

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the political strategy for libertarians in the United States and their potential influence on different political parties.

Linking to Existing Parties

  • It may make more sense for libertarians in the United States to align themselves with one of the existing political parties.
  • By working within an established infrastructure, they can promote pro-liberty ideas effectively.
  • Young Voices is interested in influencing different groups, whether they are Democrats or Republicans, to promote pro-liberty ideas.

Left and Right’s Ideas of Liberty

  • Both left-wing and right-wing ideologies have had ideas of liberty throughout history.
  • For example, free speech was traditionally a left-wing idea but has shifted towards the right recently.
  • The speaker questions why it is necessary for libertarians to infiltrate either the left or right instead of having their own distinct movement.

39:07 Values of Liberals and Conservatives

Section Overview: This section explores the values associated with liberals and conservatives according to social psychologist Jonathan Hyte.

Values of Liberals and Conservatives

  • According to Hyte, liberals are more focused on equality and fairness as their main values.
  • On the other hand, conservatives prioritize order as a key value.
  • Libertarianism is seen as an acquired taste, with libertarians being more analytical and individualistic compared to liberals and conservatives.

40:29 Influencing Current Political System

Section Overview: The speaker expresses support for influencing the current political system rather than creating a new party or movement.

Operating Among Masses

  • Libertarians should operate among the masses within existing political parties (Team Red or Team Blue).
  • Pro-liberty ideas have been adopted by both Democrats and Republicans at different times.
  • The speaker highlights the Yimbi movement among Democrats in the United States, which focuses on addressing cost of living issues through building and innovation.

41:35 Future of Libertarian Party

Section Overview: The speaker discusses the potential for a mass popular libertarian party and its viability in the current political landscape.

Unlikelihood of Mass Popular Libertarian Party

  • The speaker believes that there won’t be a mass popular libertarian party in their lifetime, especially in the United States.
  • In other countries, such as Europe, there are parties explicitly advocating for classical liberalism.
  • However, most Americans do not understand the concept of classical liberalism.

43:04 Promoting Pro-Liberty Ideas

Section Overview: This section emphasizes the importance of promoting pro-liberty ideas to prevent regression into negative ideologies.

Importance of Promoting Pro-Liberty Ideas

  • It is crucial to have messengers who highlight the benefits of liberty and freedom in today’s world.
  • Freedom House and other organizations have shown a decline in freedom globally.
  • Both left-wing and right-wing ideologies should promote pro-liberty ideas within their respective contexts to avoid authoritarianism or collapse into negative ideologies.

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44:24 The Rising Ideology Against Freedom

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the existence of a rising ideology against freedom and how it is seen in both left and right-wing ideologies.

The Left’s Perspective

  • 44:48 On the left, there are socialistic ideas that believe more command and control would lead to fewer societal problems and less poverty.
  • This perspective suggests that freedom may not be the natural state of life.

The Right’s Perspective

  • 45:14 On the right, there is a growing interest in national conservative ideas.
  • People feel that living in a secularized society leads to filling a “god-shaped hole” with addiction, unemployment, etc.
  • They believe pushing religion or nationalistic ideas can address these issues.

Nostalgia for the Past

  • 45:38 When people want to turn back the clock, it’s important to question which time period they refer to.
  • Nostalgia often overlooks the challenges faced by marginalized groups such as women, black individuals, and LGBTQ+ community members.

Emphasizing Freedom and Opportunity

  • 46:12 Despite not living in a completely free world, it is crucial to recognize the tremendous freedom and opportunity available today.
  • Rather than longing for past eras, embracing current freedoms can lead to significant progress.

46:39 Understanding the Existential Moment

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker delves into what constitutes an existential moment and explores potential future paths.

Causes of Existential Moment

  • 47:11 Decline of big cultural institutions like religion has led people to feel valueless or uncertain about their values.
  • Over-politicization has resulted in individuals seeking their values from political affiliations like being a Trump supporter or a Bernie grow.

Evolution of Work and Discourse

  • 47:32 The evolution of work, with less defined jobs and the rise of the gig economy, has contributed to the existential moment.
  • Media plays a significant role as there are now multiple narratives and no single trusted voice like Walter Cronkite.

Abundance of Choices

  • 47:58 Some argue that there is too much freedom and people need simpler paths with fewer options.
  • However, having an abundance of choices benefits the poor, minorities, and provides more opportunities for personal growth.

48:24 Embracing New Realities for Peace and Happiness

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker expresses optimism about humanity’s ability to adapt to new realities and find peace and happiness.

Learning from History

  • 49:01 Humans have historically learned to adapt to new inventions like the printing press.
  • The current evolution in technology, particularly with the internet, is still in its early stages.

Finding Peace and Happiness

  • 49:33 Humans will learn how to navigate these new realities economically and socially.
  • Despite challenges, there are abundant opportunities for happiness and prosperity in today’s world.

49:53 Conclusion: Revolution of Information

Section Overview: The speaker reflects on the revolution of information brought about by the internet and its impact on religion, work, and society.

Revolutionizing Information

  • The internet has revolutionized access to information.
  • Religion, work dynamics, and societal changes are all interconnected with this revolution.

Embracing Freedom for Progress

  • Freedom allows for more open paths towards progress.
  • It offers greater opportunities for individuals from diverse backgrounds.


Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses the chaos and abundance of information in today’s digital age and offers advice on how young people can navigate through it.

Navigating the Chaos

  • Young people need guidance on how to navigate the chaos of the internet and information overload.
  • The speaker reflects on their own experience growing up with limited access to information compared to today’s instant gratification culture.
  • They emphasize the importance of not being overwhelmed and working out personal policies for finding truth and what works for everyone.
  • The democratization of media has led to a free market of ideas, but it also adds to the chaos.
  • Advice is given on how best to advise youngsters in navigating this chaos, including being skeptical of everything seen on the internet.


Section Overview: In this section, the speaker continues discussing advice for young people in navigating through the chaos of information overload.

Dealing with Information Overload

  • There should be more introductory lessons on how to deal with the internet and abundance of choice and noise, especially for young people.
  • One important tip is not trusting everything seen on the internet, as there is a lot of misinformation present.
  • It is crucial for young girls not to derive their sense of self-worth from comparing themselves to others online.
  • Real-life connections with friends, family, and loved ones are more important than anonymous strangers online.
  • Being professional in online interactions is essential, particularly when it comes to producing content or engaging in commentaries.


Section Overview: In this section, the speaker provides additional advice for young people in navigating through information overload.

Tips for Navigating Information Overload

  • It is important to be thoughtful about the content one puts out online due to the overabundance of commentaries.
  • Being curious and consuming information is more important than being a producer of information.
  • The internet offers opportunities for free education, so it is crucial to prioritize learning and improving knowledge.
  • Going to university or pursuing further education is not always necessary for a successful career, especially considering the high cost in some countries.


Section Overview: In this section, the speaker shares their personal opinion on the importance of further education and its impact on hiring decisions.

Importance of Further Education

  • The speaker, as someone who frequently hires, believes that experience and consistent competence are more important than navigating prestigious institutions.
  • They admit to often prioritizing experience over education when reviewing resumes.
  • While attending a prestigious school may provide certain opportunities, it is possible to have a successful career without accumulating massive debt from higher education.
  • The speaker emphasizes that success can be achieved without going into significant financial burden at a young age.

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56:40 The Value of Further Education

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker discusses how further education has been devalued over time due to its increased accessibility. They also mention that certain professions still require a university degree.

Importance of Internships and Apprenticeships

  • 57:03 The speaker advises young individuals without experience to start with internships and apprenticeships.
  • By gaining practical experience and building networks, opportunities can open up for them in their desired field.

Experience Over College Degrees

  • 57:56 The speaker shares that they have hired two people without college degrees who have proven to be excellent workers.
  • Accumulating relevant experience through internships, apprenticeships, and full-time jobs is more valuable than solely relying on a college degree.

Organizations for Young Liberty-Minded Individuals

  • 58:20 The speaker suggests Students For Liberty as a good organization for young individuals interested in liberty.
  • They also mention their own organization, Young Voices, which offers opportunities such as op-ed editing, publishing, and commentary to help individuals gain knowledge and build networks.

01:00:01 Understanding Professionalism

Section Overview: In this section, the concept of professionalism is discussed. The speaker emphasizes the importance of being intentional with one’s actions and making genuine connections.

Defining Professionalism

  • 01:00:31 Professionalism is not about appearance or collecting business cards but rather about carrying oneself with care and curiosity.
  • Being intentional with one’s time and making genuine connections adds value to personal and professional growth.

Key Aspects of Professionalism

  • 01:01:15 Basic aspects include not being disruptive at events or engaging in harassment.
  • Being punctual is an example of intentionally showing respect for others’ time.

01:01:55 Attracting People to Free Communities

Section Overview: In this section, the speaker seeks advice on attracting people to free communities as part of the Free Cities Foundation.

Strategies for Attraction

  • The speaker seeks advice on how to attract individuals to their ideas and create free communities.
  • Further details or insights are not provided in the transcript.

01:02:25 Challenges of Free Cities and Marketing

Section Overview: The speaker discusses the challenges faced by free cities projects, particularly the accusation of neo-colonialism. They emphasize the need to market free cities as opportunities for empowerment and social mobility, rather than just a means for rich Americans and Westerners to make money.

Challenges Faced by Free Cities

  • Accusation of neo-colonialism is a major challenge for free cities projects.
  • Emphasizing the bottom-up potential of free cities is crucial in countering this accusation.
  • Highlighting the opportunities for people living in countries and entrepreneurs can help overcome pushback.

01:03:18 Potential of Free Cities and Dead Capital

Section Overview: The speaker discusses the potential of free cities in terms of social mobility and economic growth. They mention Urnanda DeSoto’s concept of dead capital and how institutions can hinder entrepreneurs from realizing their potential.

Potential of Free Cities

  • Free cities have tremendous potential to uplift people from poverty and empower entrepreneurs.
  • Dead capital refers to untapped resources due to poor institutions that restrict entrepreneurial opportunities.
  • Emphasizing the ability of free cities to unlock this dead capital can lead to their success.

01:04:23 Examples of Existing Projects

Section Overview: The speaker shares examples of existing projects, such as Prospera in Honduras, where the majority of participants are locals. They highlight the importance of showcasing working projects as evidence for the benefits of free cities.

Examples of Existing Projects

  • Prospera in Honduras is an example where 95% of participants are Honduran.
  • Demonstrating that free city projects benefit local communities helps counter misconceptions.
  • Working projects provide tangible results that can be used as evidence when promoting free cities.

01:05:04 Free Cities as a Work in Progress

Section Overview: The speaker acknowledges that most free city projects are still works in progress, which makes marketing and promoting them challenging. They discuss the need for concrete examples of successful libertarian ideas to inspire people.

Free Cities as Works in Progress

  • Most free city projects are still in the development phase, making it difficult to promote them.
  • Concrete examples of successful libertarian ideas can serve as inspiration for others.
  • The speaker expresses optimism about the increasing popularity of free cities in popular culture.

01:07:42 Proliferation of Ideas and Libertarian Examples

Section Overview: The speaker discusses how ideas related to free cities have been around for a long time and are starting to proliferate. They mention Hong Kong as an example of economic liberty but emphasize the need for a culture of liberty and strong defenses against tyranny.

Proliferation of Ideas and Libertarian Examples

  • Ideas related to free cities have been around for a long time and are gaining traction.
  • Despite not having fully libertarian societies, examples like Hong Kong showcase the importance of economic liberty.
  • A culture of liberty and robust defenses against tyranny are essential for successful implementation.

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01:08:54 Mark Lutter and Charter Cities

Section Overview: The speaker discusses their close relationship with Mark Lutter, the founder of Charter Cities. They mention that there are various initiatives related to charter cities and other ideas gaining popularity and institutional investment.

Mark Lutter and Charter Cities

  • The speaker mentions being close with Mark Lutter, the founder of Charter Cities. 01:08:54
  • There are several initiatives related to charter cities and other ideas gaining popularity and institutional investment. 01:09:03

01:09:09 Free Cities as a Response to Increased Authoritarianism

Section Overview: The speaker explores the possibility that the resurgence of free cities as an idea could be a response to increased pressure or authoritarianism in the world. They discuss how technology and decentralization may play a role in this movement.

Resurgence of Free Cities

  • The speaker suggests that the resurgence of free cities as an idea may be a response to increased pressure or authoritarianism in the world. 01:09:09
  • Technology and decentralization might contribute to this movement, allowing for more choices in governance beyond traditional options like constitutional republics or monarchies. 01:09:58
  • Radical decentralization or federalism could be key factors in building peaceful and prosperous societies through intentional communities. 01:10:26

01:11:01 Building Intentional Communities in a Flatter World

Section Overview: The speaker discusses the potential for building intentional communities as new frontiers for autonomy and competitive governance. They highlight how countries are becoming interested in attracting different types of people for living, entrepreneurship, and economic benefits.

Building Intentional Communities

  • In a flatter world, people should not be limited by their place of birth and should have the opportunity to build intentional communities in different countries. 01:11:01
  • Countries are becoming interested in attracting diverse individuals for living, entrepreneurship, and economic benefits. Examples include Portugal’s aggressive campaigns to attract Americans and Estonia’s e-residency program. 01:12:43

01:14:14 Incentives for Governments to be Competitive

Section Overview: The speaker discusses the incentives for governments to be competitive in terms of governance. They mention their personal experiences with seasteading and how governments are becoming more interested in ideas like free cities.

Incentives for Competitive Governance

  • Governments are being incentivized to be competitive in terms of governance, despite it going against the grain. There is a growing demand for competitive governance from individuals and countries alike. 01:14:14
  • The speaker mentions their personal experiences with seasteading and how they witnessed the evolution of ideas like free cities over time. They highlight that governments are becoming more interested in these concepts. 01:12:11

Note: The transcript provided does not contain timestamps for all sections mentioned above.

01:15:10 Formative Moments and Seasteading

Section Overview: The speaker reflects on a formative moment in their life when they attended an event at UC Berkeley focused on Seasteading. They describe the atmosphere and meeting influential individuals who later became involved in free cities projects.

Memories of the Event

  • Attended an event at UC Berkeley about Seasteading.
  • The event took place in a building with a stained glass window.
  • The speaker recalls the enthusiastic preacher-like speech by Pâtri, promoting the gospel of Seasteading.
  • Fond memories of meeting subsequent executive directors and engaging with like-minded individuals.

Evolution of Ideas

  • Many people from those circles have embraced free cities ideas and have been involved in projects such as Honduras and French Polynesia.
  • The speaker mentions speaking to Pâtri’s father, who was more enthusiastic about the free cities model than Seasteading.
  • The concept of living on a floating Seasteading was explored through a prototype built off the coast of Thailand, but it was seized by the Thai Navy due to sovereignty concerns.

Challenges of Building C-steads

  • International waters are not completely unregulated; there are various shipping routes and extended sovereignty zones for countries.
  • Building a true international waters-based C-stead would require being hundreds of miles offshore, making it difficult both physically and from a governance perspective.

01:18:16 Challenges and Variations of Seasteading

Section Overview: The speaker discusses the challenges faced in building a C-stead in truly international waters. They mention variations such as living offshore or half underwater, half above water structures. Buckminster Fuller’s early conceptualization of a C-stead is also mentioned.

Difficulties in Building International Waters-based C-steads

  • True international waters-based Seasteading would require being hundreds of miles offshore.
  • The speaker acknowledges the need for further exploration and conversations on the topic.

Variations of Seasteading

  • Some variations involve living offshore rather than in free cities.
  • There are fascinating structures that are half underwater and half above water, not necessarily free cities but still intriguing.

Historical Conceptualization by Buckminster Fuller

  • Buckminster Fuller conceptualized a C-stead in the early 1960s, showcasing his innovative thinking.
  • Building physical structures and addressing governance challenges remain significant obstacles.

01:19:37 One-Year Sabbatical and Future Themes

Section Overview: The speaker shares their plans for a one-year sabbatical if funded, which includes traveling the world and writing a book. They express interest in exploring themes related to the existential moment we are in, the future of technology, work, and making an optimistic case for embracing liberty and choice.

One-Year Sabbatical Plans

  • If given a paid one-year sabbatical, the speaker would travel the world.
  • They find traveling to be a valuable learning experience with different takeaways from each trip.
  • Writing a book is also on their agenda, focusing on themes such as our current existential moment, technology’s impact on work, and making an optimistic case for embracing liberty and choice.

Embracing Optimism

  • Humans tend to be wired towards pessimism due to evolutionary reasons.
  • Despite acknowledging that choices can lead society backward, it is important to embrace ideas of liberty and choice to create a positive future where technology coexists with an evolving economy.

Note: The transcript provided was already in English.