“It’s inevitable that if you have a legislative body, then over time the number of laws will increase, the taxes will increase, indebtedness will increase and the number of people who are not productive will increase. That is in my view, absolutely inevitable.

So you have to change the system… And I have made a proposal on how to do that.”

Titus scaled

It’s another of my discussions from Montenegro again this week on the podcast and this time it’s part one of two conversations I had with none other than the Founder and President of the Free Cities Foundation himself, Titus Gebel.

Now, since most of you will know who Titus is I will keep this intro brief. Obviously, he has done many interviews before so I tried my best to keep this conversation away from the usual Free Private Cities talking points and delve a little deeper into the history of different city-state models and their modern-day incarnations. I also got to probe a little into Titus’s own history and motivations as well as some of his predictions for the future of the idea that government should be a service.

We recorded together on two separate occasions and part two of this conversation will be a deep dive into medieval city-states which is a discussion I’ve been pining to have for many months now, so look out for that one over the next few weeks.

Enjoy the conversation.

Automatically Generated Summary

00:00 Introduction

The host introduces the podcast and mentions that it is an interview with Titus Gebel, the founder and president of the Free Cities Foundation.

Welcome to the Free Cities Podcast

  • Timothy Allen welcomes listeners to the podcast.
  • He introduces himself as the host of the podcast and mentions that it is the official podcast of the Free Cities Foundation.

Episode Number 34

  • This episode is number 34 of the Free Cities Podcast.
  • The host mentions that this episode features a discussion with Titus Gebel.

Interview with Titus Gebel

  • The host mentions that he had two conversations with Titus Gebel.
  • He states that in this episode, they will delve into the history of different city-state models and discuss modern-day incarnations.
  • The conversation also explores Titus’s own history, motivations, and predictions for the future of government as a service.

01:45 Questions for Titus Gebel

The host discusses how most interviews with Titus ask similar questions, but he aims to go deeper in this conversation.

Similar Questions in Interviews

  • The host acknowledges that many interviews with Titus ask similar questions.
  • He mentions that he tried to avoid those usual talking points in this conversation.

Rarely New Questions

  • The host notes how rarely new questions arise during interviews with Titus.
  • He recalls a recent new question about building a cemetery in free private cities.

Main Questions about Free Private Cities

  • Common questions include:
    • Is it for everyone or only for wealthy individuals?
    • How do you protect against the host nation taking over?
    • What about social security?

Tricky Questions

  • People who have thought deeply about free private cities may have more complex questions such as:
    • What about contract changes?
    • How does the model accommodate people born in the city versus those who come later?
    • Misunderstandings about the model, such as concerns about democracy and self-determination.

05:19 Self-Determination in Free Private Cities

Titus Gebel explains the concept of self-determination in free private cities.

Limited Government Decision-Making

  • Titus emphasizes that decision-making in free private cities is relatively limited.
  • He mentions that individuals have the freedom to make decisions for themselves.

Difficult to Understand

  • Titus acknowledges that some people find it challenging to grasp the concept of self-determination.
  • He appreciates when people question why this model works in a particular way and not another way.

Conclusion

This summary covers the introduction of the podcast, where Timothy Allen introduces himself and announces an interview with Titus Gebel. It also includes a discussion on common questions asked during interviews with Titus and explores the concept of self-determination in free private cities.

12:40 The Success Story of Dubai and the Importance of Common Law

This section discusses how Dubai faced challenges in attracting financing companies due to their local laws. To overcome this, they imported a common law system and judges from London, which led to the establishment of the Dubai International Financial Center (DIC). The DIC now has its own regulatory capacities, court system, and is responsible for a significant portion of Dubai’s GDP.

Dubai’s Solution to Attract Financing Companies

  • In the 1890s, Dubai wanted to attract financing companies but faced difficulties due to their local laws.
  • They realized that financial hubs like London, New York, Singapore, and Hong Kong were successful because they operated on British common law.
  • To address this, Dubai decided to import a common law system and judges from London.
  • This led to the establishment of the Dubai International Financial Center (DIC), which now has its own regulatory capacities and court system.

Tremendous Success of the DIC

  • The DIC started with only 10 or 30 companies but has grown significantly over time.
  • Currently, there are more than 1000 registered companies in the DIC.
  • The DIC is responsible for approximately 10% of Dubai’s GDP.

14:00 Extending Common Law System in Dubai

This section highlights how Dubai extended its common law system beyond finance by incorporating family law. High potential financial managers also wanted protection under common law for matters related to marriage and inheritance. Judges were imported from Singapore and other common law countries.

Extension of Common Law System

  • The success of the DIC prompted an extension of the common law system in Dubai.
  • Family law was included within this framework as high potential financial managers desired protection under common law for marriage and inheritance matters.
  • Judges were imported from Singapore, London, and other common law countries.
  • Dubai now has its own court system that operates under the common law principles.

15:20 The Need for Contracts and Security in Free Private Cities

This section discusses the importance of contracts and security in free private cities. It mentions how Dubai’s success with a common law system is an example of what is needed in a free private city. It also introduces Honduras as a model inspired by Hong Kong, which aims to create a similar autonomous environment.

Importance of Contracts and Security

  • In addition to a common law system, free private cities require contracts with individuals and their own security systems.
  • Dubai’s success with its common law system serves as an example of what is needed in a free private city.
  • Honduras is mentioned as a model inspired by Hong Kong, aiming to create an autonomous environment similar to that of Hong Kong or Macau.

17:19 Working Examples of Government Contracts in Free Private Cities

This section discusses the concept of government contracts or “government as a service” in free private cities. It mentions Morazon and Prospera as examples where residents are protected by agreements that include bill of rights. These examples are helpful when negotiating with governments.

Government Contracts in Free Private Cities

  • The concept of government contracts or “government as a service” involves residents being part of a contract with the government that protects their rights.
  • Morazon and Prospera are mentioned as examples where residents have agreements that include bill of rights, providing them protection.
  • These examples are helpful when negotiating with governments, as it shows that similar laws already exist in certain regions.

18:38 Increasing Autonomy in Special Economic Zones

This section highlights the trend of increasing autonomy in special economic zones, starting from the 1960s. It mentions Shannon as an example of a special economic zone becoming more autonomous. The speaker sees this trend as encouraging and believes it is a strong momentum for free private cities.

Increasing Autonomy in Special Economic Zones

  • There has been a trend of increasing autonomy in special economic zones since the 1960s.
  • Shannon is mentioned as an example of a special economic zone that has become more autonomous.
  • The speaker finds this trend encouraging and sees it as a strong momentum for free private cities.

Note: The transcript provided does not specify the language used, so I have assumed it to be English based on your request.

19:11 Understanding the Current Situation

The speaker discusses the current situation and emphasizes that it is the right time for certain events to occur.

Something Happening at the Right Time

  • The speaker mentions that something is happening at the present moment, indicating that it is an opportune time for certain actions or changes to take place.

28:52 Key Factors in a Successful Model

The speaker highlights two key factors for a successful model – investor protection clauses in treaties and ownership of the operating company.

Investor Protection Clauses and Company Ownership

  • Investor protection clauses in treaties are crucial for a successful model.
  • The operating company should be owned by a country with a bilateral investor protection agreement with the host nation.
  • It is important who owns the company, as it can impact perceptions of whether it is good or bad based on who takes over.

04:02 Contractual Nature and Limited Scope

The speaker explains that ownership of the operating company does not play a role due to its contractual nature. Additionally, they discuss how their model has limited scope in terms of decision-making power.

Ownership Irrelevant in Contractual Model

  • In their model, ownership of the operating company does not matter because it operates based on contracts.
  • Many people find it difficult to understand this concept since they are accustomed to traditional systems where ownership matters.

Limited Scope and Democracy

  • Their model has relatively limited decision-making power.
  • Democracy plays a different role in their model compared to traditional systems.

29:11 Importance of Treaty Compliance

The speaker emphasizes that violating signed treaties can have severe consequences, while other aspects are left up to individual responsibility.

Painful Consequences of Treaty Violation

  • Violating signed treaties can be very painful and have serious repercussions.
  • However, for other aspects not covered by treaties, individuals are responsible for their own actions.

29:17 Job Creation and Decision-Making Power

The speaker discusses the potential for job creation in a free private city and highlights the decision-making power that comes with it.

Job Creation in Free Private City

  • A free private city can create numerous jobs, attracting companies from the host nation.
  • The ability to make decisions independently is difficult for some people to understand, especially those accustomed to traditional systems.

04:29 Universal Questions and Misconceptions

The speaker acknowledges common questions and misconceptions surrounding their model.

Addressing Universal Questions

  • People often raise universal questions about their model.
  • Mainstream journalists sometimes try to portray their model negatively without providing explanations.

29:39 Incentives for Host Nation

The speaker explains three incentives for the host nation to support a free private city – economic dependence, political influence, and mobility of residents.

Economic Dependence and Political Influence

  • Many families will depend on income generated by the free private city.
  • These families are voters or have relatives who are voters, creating an incentive for the host nation not to destroy the city.
  • Political opposition within the country may oppose military invasion due to economic benefits received from the free private city.

Mobility of Residents

  • People associated with the free private city come from various parts of the world, making them highly mobile.
  • This mobility contributes to the success of the model as good people can leave if necessary.

04:52 Addressing Criticisms and Misunderstandings

The speaker addresses criticisms and misunderstandings about their model, such as being against social security and democracy.

Addressing Criticisms

  • Critics claim they are against social security and democracy without providing any explanation.
  • The speaker is glad to be asked why their model works in a certain way, as there is a reason behind each aspect.

30:05 Potential Consequences of Invasion

The speaker discusses the potential consequences of invading a free private city, using Hong Kong as an example.

Consequences of Invasion

  • If a city is invaded, good people will leave, leading to the failure of the model.
  • This scenario can be observed in Hong Kong if China continues to exert control over it.

30:26 Self-Determination vs. Political Participation

The speaker explains the difference between self-determination and political participation in the context of a free private city.

Self-Determination vs. Political Participation

  • In their model, self-determination is emphasized rather than political participation.
  • When decision-making power lies with the ruler of a city, political participation becomes necessary.

05:36 Communicating Complex Concepts

The speaker acknowledges the challenge of effectively communicating complex concepts to ensure understanding by all individuals.

Difficulty in Communication

  • Communicating complex concepts can be challenging to ensure universal understanding.

30:32 Discouraging Military Invasion

The speaker highlights that military invasion would not be in the country’s interest due to various factors.

Discouraging Military Invasion

  • Military invasion of a free private city is not in the country’s interest.
  • Political opposition within the country would oppose such an invasion, considering the benefits received from the city.

30:53 Outcome of Honduran Model

The speaker discusses the potential outcome of the Honduran model and mentions a claim made by Prospera against Honduras.

Potential Outcome and Claim

  • The outcome of the Honduran model is uncertain, but there may be an agreement in the future.
  • Prospera has made a claim of ten billion dollars against Honduras for 50 years of lost profits and investments.

06:04 Looking to Past Examples

The speaker suggests looking to past examples to find working models and references medieval cities as a possible example.

Learning from Past Examples

  • To find working models, it may be helpful to look at examples from the past.
  • Medieval cities are mentioned as potential examples worth studying.

31:00 Security and Outcome

The speaker discusses how security plays a role in the success of a model and expresses curiosity about its outcome in relation to the Honduran model.

Role of Security

  • Security is not guaranteed but can contribute to success.
  • The outcome of the Honduran model remains uncertain, with ongoing discussions and opinions among Hondurans.

06:18 Political Motives Behind Pushback

The speaker mentions political motives behind pushback on certain models, referring to ZEDEs as an example.

Political Motives

  • Pushback on certain models can stem from political motives, especially during election times.
  • ZEDEs are referenced as an example where political motivations were involved.

31:48

The speaker discusses the importation of judges from London to Monaco and how it played out.

Importing Judges from London

  • In Monaco, judges were imported from London.
  • This decision was made to establish a court system in Monaco.
  • The importation of judges from London actually happened.

37:54

The speaker talks about the first attempts in Cologne to become independent and establish their own common law system.

First Attempts in Cologne

  • Around 1100, there were attempts in Cologne to get rid of the bishop and become independent.
  • They wanted to be under the emperor but have their own common law system.
  • Cologne established its own common law system, which eventually extended to family law.

14:06

The speaker explains why high potential financial managers do not want to be subject to barrier law when it comes to marriage or inheritance.

High Potential Financial Managers and Imported Judges

  • High potential financial managers do not want to be subject to barrier law regarding marriage or inheritance.
  • To address this, they have imported judges from Singapore, London, and other common law countries.
  • These imported judges contribute to an independent court system for financial matters.

38:14

The speaker discusses how Cologne eventually got rid of the bishop with military support from neighboring princes.

Getting Rid of the Bishop in Cologne

  • It took around 100 years for Cologne to eventually get rid of the bishop.
  • They achieved this by militarily defeating him with support from neighboring princes.
  • This victory granted them autonomy and allowed them to establish their own rules.

38:40

The speaker highlights the success of Cologne and other cities in establishing their own rules and becoming autonomous.

Success of Cologne and Other Cities

  • Cologne’s success in getting rid of the bishop inspired other cities to follow suit.
  • Business people and honorable individuals made decisions in these cities.
  • Over time, the number of voters increased, leading to powerful upper Italian cities.
  • These cities became autonomous and had their own court systems.

14:49

The speaker mentions the success of Dubai’s Dubai International Financial Center (DIC) as a working example.

Success of Dubai’s DIC

  • The DIC is a small area of Dubai, covering about a square mile or quarter of a mile.
  • It has its own regulatory capacities and different set of rules compared to the rest of Dubai.
  • More than 1000 companies are registered in the DIC, contributing significantly to Dubai’s GDP.

39:07

The speaker discusses how ancient Greek polis and Italian city-states provide examples of what can go wrong with democracy over time.

Ancient Greek Polis and Italian City-States

  • The ancient Greek polis and Italian city-states show the potential issues with democracy over time.
  • In Italian city-states, powerful families took over the system.
  • Venice opposed one family ruling the city-state, leading to its unique governance model.

39:35

The speaker explains how Honduras is modeled after Hong Kong as a special administrative region belonging to China.

Honduras Modeled After Hong Kong

  • Honduras is modeled after Hong Kong, which is officially called a special administrative region.
  • China is responsible for foreign policy and defense, while everything else is managed by Hong Kong itself.
  • Hong Kong has its own parliament, police force, flag, currency, courts, etc.

39:55

The speaker discusses the voting system in Hong Kong and the issue of unpredictability in government elections.

Voting System in Hong Kong

  • Hong Kong has a complicated voting system where electors are elected by a group of electors.
  • This system makes it unpredictable who will eventually be in government.
  • The model aims to prevent vote-buying, populistic messages, and bribing of votes.

40:09

The speaker mentions the success of special administrative regions like Hong Kong and special economic zones like Dubai International Financial Center.

Success of Special Administrative Regions and Economic Zones

  • Special administrative regions like Hong Kong and special economic zones like Dubai International Financial Center have been successful models.
  • They have their own governance systems, regulations, and contribute significantly to their respective countries’ economies.

40:22

The speaker highlights the historical significance of Venice as an independent city-state with its own rules.

Venice as an Independent City-State

  • Venice started under the Roman Byzantine Empire but eventually became factually independent.
  • It lasted for 1100 years without a single government overthrow.
  • Venice had its own economic zone and made rules independently.

40:33

The speaker emphasizes that free private cities need a contract with people to establish security and rules.

Free Private Cities Need Contracts

  • Free private cities require contracts with people to establish security and rules.
  • Examples include Genoa, Pisa, Florence, which were ruled by powerful families.
  • Honduras is another example modeled after Hong Kong’s special administrative region.

40:53 Monaco’s Tax Advantage

This section discusses why the family in question decided to move to Monaco and stop paying taxes in France.

Reasons for Relocating to Monaco

  • The family moved to Monaco to avoid paying taxes on their wealth in France.
  • By becoming residents of Monaco, they no longer had to pay taxes on their wealth.

47:12 Establishing Multiple City States

This section explores the idea of establishing multiple city states or independent jurisdictions.

Creating Multiple City States

  • The idea is to establish not just one city state, but multiple ones.
  • This approach would prevent any single city state from being easily stopped or controlled.
  • Even if some city states fail, the overall model would still survive.
  • The goal is to create a landscape with numerous independent jurisdictions.

47:30 Unique Characteristics of Monaco

This section highlights the unique characteristics of Monaco and its relationship with France.

Unique Aspects of Monaco

  • Monaco is surrounded by France but has an open border to the sea.
  • It has a long history of agreements and treaties with France.
  • The Prince of Monaco was married to a famous American actress, which helped establish connections with various governments including Italy, Vatican, and the US.
  • There was an agreement made between Monaco and France regarding taxation for individuals moving from France to Monaco.

48:04 Long-Term Thinking and Negotiations

This section emphasizes the importance of long-term thinking and negotiations in creating successful independent jurisdictions.

Long-Term Perspective

  • The speaker believes in thinking long-term when it comes to establishing independent jurisdictions.
  • Negotiations were conducted with various parties, including the French government, to reach compromises and agreements.
  • The reputation of Monaco played a significant role in attracting people and governments to support its development.

48:20 Future Vision for Independent Jurisdictions

This section discusses the ideal future vision for independent jurisdictions and describes how it could be achieved.

Future Vision

  • The ideal future would consist of multiple independent jurisdictions or city states.
  • Individuals born in these jurisdictions would initially be under their parents’ contract.
  • At the age of 18, they would have the option to become contractual individuals on their own.
  • The goal is to create communities that are affluent and interconnected with surrounding areas.

25:34 Historical Treaties with France

This section provides historical context regarding treaties between Monaco and France.

Historical Treaties

  • In the past, treaties were made between Monaco and France regarding taxation for individuals moving from France to Monaco.
  • A compromise was reached in 1963, stating that individuals moving from France to Monaco had to pay taxes to France but not others.

48:31 Challenges and Complexity

This section acknowledges the challenges and complexity involved in establishing independent jurisdictions.

Challenges Faced

  • The speaker acknowledges that it always takes longer and is more difficult than anticipated.
  • Establishing independent jurisdictions involves dealing with legal complexities and potential resistance from various parties.
  • The example of Honduras is mentioned as a case where early progress was made due to cooperation from the government.

48:48 Collaboration with Existing Governments

This section highlights collaboration with existing governments in creating successful independent jurisdictions.

Collaboration with Governments

  • Collaborating with existing governments can help establish successful independent jurisdictions.
  • Monaco pays for French police services, showcasing a collaborative relationship.
  • Prospera, another example, collaborates with the Honduran government and pays for infrastructure.

49:19 Future Perspective and Community Integration

This section discusses the future perspective of independent jurisdictions and their integration with surrounding communities.

Future Perspective

  • The ideal future involves having multiple independent jurisdictions that attract people from various backgrounds.
  • Individuals born in these jurisdictions would have the option to become contractual individuals at a certain age.
  • The goal is to create affluent communities that interact with surrounding areas.

49:53

This section discusses the potential negative impact of income inequality on society.

Impact of Free Love and Income Inequality

  • Income inequality can be detrimental to society.
  • It is not in the country’s interest to promote this outcome.

53:01

This section explores the learning curve associated with implementing new ideas and the presence of political opposition.

Learning Curve and Political Opposition

  • The learning curve for implementing new ideas may be steep.
  • Political opposition will always exist, criticizing new initiatives as foolish or stupid.

53:06

This section discusses the time it takes to realize the failure of certain systems, such as communism, and the potential benefits of a free private city.

Time to Realize Failure and Benefits of Free Private City

  • It took 70 years to realize that communism does not work.
  • A free private city can provide benefits such as economic prosperity and security.
  • The outcome of implementing a free private city is yet to be seen.

31:08

This section mentions a claim made by Prospera against Honduras for lost profits, highlighting potential challenges faced by free private cities.

Claim Against Honduras

  • Prospera has made a claim of ten billion dollars against Honduras for 50 years of lost profits.
  • This claim poses challenges for free private cities.

53:13

This section emphasizes the importance of having multiple competing societies to facilitate faster learning from successful models. It also mentions potential agreements between nations regarding governance models.

Importance of Competing Societies and Potential Agreements

  • Having multiple competing societies allows for quicker identification and adoption of successful models.
  • People would expect their government to adopt successful practices observed in neighboring societies.
  • Agreements between nations may be reached to adopt certain governance models.

53:35

This section discusses the possibility that some individuals may choose to remain in their nation states, but agreements can still be made with the government. It also mentions the initial political motivations behind opposition to free private cities.

Individuals Remaining in Nation States and Political Motivations

  • Some individuals may choose to remain in their nation states.
  • Agreements can still be made with governments, even if there is initial opposition.
  • Initial pushback against free private cities may have been politically motivated.

31:42

This section mentions that things are progressing positively and becoming less tense in relation to free private cities.

Positive Progress

  • Things are moving along positively and becoming less tense regarding free private cities.

53:42

This section highlights potential effects of free private cities, such as demands for contracts from governments and the need for success for long-term impact.

Effects of Free Private Cities

  • Governments may face demands for contracts similar to those offered by free private city operators.
  • The success of free private cities is crucial for long-term impact.

53:54

This section emphasizes the importance of starting now, even if only future generations will fully experience the unfolding world. It also raises a question about Monaco’s history.

Importance of Starting Now and Question about Monaco’s History

  • Starting now is important, as future generations will witness the full realization of new ideas.
  • The speaker asks about Monaco’s history and how it became what it is today.

32:02

This section briefly discusses the historical conflict and religious influences that shaped Monaco.

Historical Conflict and Religious Influences

  • Monaco’s history involves conflicts and religious influences dating back to the 1200s.

54:08

This section mentions the importance of travel in the free private city model and references dangerous precedents set during the pandemic. It also raises a question about supporters and enemies of the pope.

Importance of Travel and Precedents Set

  • Travel is an important aspect of the free private city model.
  • Dangerous precedents were set during the pandemic regarding travel restrictions.
  • The speaker asks about supporters and enemies of the pope in relation to individual private cities.

54:29

This section discusses how access to open seas can provide opportunities for growth, using Monaco as an example.

Access to Open Seas

  • Access to open seas has historically been crucial for growth.
  • Monaco benefited from its access to open seas, which allowed it to thrive.

54:45

This section mentions that Monaco was not invaded but faced pressure multiple times. It also highlights how surrounding French communities were once part of Monaco.

Pressure Faced by Monaco and Surrounding Communities

  • Monaco faced pressure multiple times but was not invaded.
  • Surrounding French communities were once part of Monaco’s territory.

33:20

This section briefly mentions that Monton once belonged to Monaco, highlighting changes in territorial size over time.

Changes in Territorial Size

  • Monton was once part of Monaco, which had a larger territory in the past.

55:06

This section emphasizes the importance of having a way out and mentions the potential use of free private cities to address challenges such as pandemics and climate change.

Having a Way Out and Addressing Challenges

  • Having a way out is important in challenging situations.
  • Free private cities can potentially provide solutions for issues like pandemics and climate change.

33:34

This section briefly mentions territorial changes involving Italy, Savoy, and France.

Territorial Changes

  • Parts of what is now Italy and Savoy were once going to France.
  • Monaco’s territory also underwent changes during this time.

55:30

This section discusses the association between free private cities and their ability to collaborate on travel and mutual visiting. It also mentions the historical reasons behind Monaco becoming part of France.

Collaboration Among Free Private Cities and Historical Reasons for Monaco’s Association with France

  • Free private cities can collaborate on travel and mutual visiting.
  • Monaco became part of France due to historical reasons, including tax differences.

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55:51 The Hanseatic League

In this section, the speaker discusses the Hanseatic League and its origins.

Origins of the Hanseatic League

  • The Hanseatic League was formed by Italian cities who observed what was happening in other Italian cities.
  • The league aimed to protect their interests and establish powerful networks among themselves.

41:22 Electoral System in Venice

This section focuses on the electoral system in Venice.

Evolution of the Electoral System

  • Initially, a council was elected, and over time, more social groups gained voting rights.
  • Powerful networks controlled the distribution of power among themselves.

42:03 Complex Government Structure in Venice

Here, the speaker explains the complex government structure in Venice.

Complicated Government Structure

  • Venetians developed a complex system where 25 election men were elected by the population.
  • These 25 individuals then nominated another 25 people who ultimately formed the government.
  • The system aimed to prevent dictatorship and ensure a fair distribution of power.

43:05 Transition and End of Venetian System

This section discusses the transition into the Venetian system and its eventual end.

Transition and Collapse

  • The transition from previous systems to the Venetian system took several hundred years.
  • Observing political dynamics for 30 years, it became clear that this system would eventually collapse.
  • After Napoleon invaded Venice in 1797, there was no resurgence of the old system. It marked an end to Venetian independence.

43:48 Reasons for Success and End of Venetian System

Here, reasons for both success and end of Venetian system are explored.

Market-Based Approach and Collapse

  • The Venetians recognized the market as the best mechanism for serving people’s needs.
  • The system relied on voluntary decisions and took several hundred years to develop successfully.
  • After Napoleon’s departure in 1815, there was no resurgence of the Venetian system. People may have been hesitant due to the changing times.

01:01:51 Motivation for Political Engagement

This section delves into the speaker’s motivation for political engagement.

Personal Motivation

  • The speaker was motivated by a desire to address what they perceived as wrong and offer alternative solutions.
  • They felt an obligation to inform fellow citizens about their proposals.

01:02:10 Role of Individuals in Political Change

Here, the speaker discusses the role of individuals in political change.

Individual Responsibility

  • If one identifies something wrong and has a solution, it becomes their obligation to share it with others.
  • Observing political dynamics over time led the speaker to believe that systems can be unsustainable and eventually collapse.

01:02:33 Complexity of Venetian System

This section highlights the complexity of the Venetian system.

Intricacies of Government Structure

  • The government structure in Venice was intricate, involving multiple layers of nomination and election.
  • It aimed to prevent concentration of power while ensuring participation from various individuals.

01:03:07 Transition Period and Collapse Cycles

Here, the speaker discusses transition periods and cycles of collapse.

Transition Period and Cycles

  • The transition into the Venetian system likely took place around 1415 or 1500.
  • Over several hundred years, Venice developed its successful system through observation and adaptation.
  • However, cycles of collapse were inevitable due to changing circumstances and power dynamics.

01:03:45 Reasons for Venetian System’s End

This section explores the reasons behind the end of the Venetian system.

Uncertain Future and Changing Times

  • After Napoleon’s invasion, Venice did not regain its independence.
  • The people may have been hesitant to revert to the old system due to changing times and circumstances.

01:04:01 Development of Venetian System

Here, the speaker discusses the development of the Venetian system.

Tribal Origins and Evolution

  • The origins of Venice can be traced back to tribal people seeking refuge from the downfall of the Western Roman Empire.
  • Over time, a leader was elected, and they gradually developed a system for living together successfully.

01:04:18 Researching and Writing About Venice

This section focuses on researching and writing about Venice.

Research Process

  • The speaker spent three years conducting interviews and reading extensively about Venice.
  • Their book, published in 2018, provides insights into the history and dynamics of Venice’s political system.

44:45 The Impact of Hard Times on Communities

In this section, the speaker discusses the idea that hard times can create strong and good people. They also mention how the internet helps in finding like-minded individuals around the world.

Hard Times and Strong Communities

  • Hard times can lead to the development of strong communities.
  • The internet facilitates connecting with like-minded people globally.
  • Free private cities are based on common ideas and values rather than ethnicity or religion.

Portfolio Life and Common Values

  • Individuals have the option to live a portfolio life or join communities with shared values.
  • Free private cities attract individuals who resonate with their ideas and values.
  • Internet communities can prepare individuals for free private cities.

Learning from Existing Communities

  • Starting a community from scratch is challenging.
  • Examples like Amish intentional communities exist but may not be suitable for everyone.
  • Young people should explore the outside world before deciding where to settle.

Bottlenecks in Creating Cities

  • Attracting people to new cities is a significant challenge.
  • Existing gated communities may lack soul and common values.
  • A successful city requires more than just real estate.

01:10:34 Manifesting Ideas in Real Life

In this section, the speaker discusses how manifesting ideas in real life is facilitated by finding like-minded individuals through the internet. They also highlight that successful societies will emerge through competition between different models.

Finding Like-Minded People Online

  • The internet helps in finding like-minded individuals worldwide.
  • Free private cities are built on common ideas and values rather than ethnic or religious backgrounds.

Competition Between Ideas

  • Different ideas will compete to become successful societies in the future.
  • Nice real estate alone is not enough; common values are essential for success.

Learning Curve of Societies

  • The learning curve of societies will be faster when there are hundreds of competing societies.
  • Copying successful models becomes easier in a competitive environment.

01:11:46 The Importance of Common Values

In this section, the speaker emphasizes the importance of common values in creating and sustaining communities. They also discuss the role of ideology and the need for travel in free private cities.

Glue that Binds Communities

  • Common values act as the glue that binds communities together.
  • Non-aggression principle and libertarianism are core tenets in some communities.

Success Depends on Common Values

  • Success depends on having common values, not just real estate.
  • The ability to travel is crucial for free private cities.

Competing Out Ideological Cities

  • Terrible ideological cities will be competed out of business.
  • People have the freedom to associate with any ideas they want.

53:06 Learning from Competition Between Societies

In this section, the speaker discusses how competition between different societies can lead to faster learning and copying successful models.

Learning from Competition

  • It took 70 years to realize that communism does not work in the Soviet Union.
  • With hundreds of competing societies, learning becomes faster.

01:12:14 Creating Cities with Ideological Commonality

In this section, the speaker discusses creating cities based on ideological commonality as an antidote to soulless real estate bubbles. They also address concerns about terrible ideological cities arising.

Founding Cities on Ideological Commonality

  • Creating cities based on ideological commonality can counter soulless real estate bubbles.

Addressing Concerns about Ideological Cities

  • Terrible ideological cities will be competed out of business.
  • People have the freedom to associate with any ideas they want.

01:13:00 The Importance of Common Values and Travel

In this section, the speaker emphasizes the importance of common values and travel in creating successful communities.

Importance of Common Values

  • Common values are crucial for the success of communities.
  • Non-aggression principle is a core tenet in some communities.

The Role of Travel

  • The ability to travel is essential for free private cities.
  • Success depends on having common values, not just real estate.

01:13:31 The Importance of Free Private Cities

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of allowing free private cities to exist and why it is necessary to live with different types of regimes.

Free Private Cities as a Solution

  • The speaker emphasizes that it is crucial to allow free private cities to exist, rather than bombing or invading countries with different regimes.
  • He mentions that fundamentalist religious or communist regimes should be accepted and lived with.
  • The concept of free private cities provides an alternative solution for people who want to live under different systems.

Access to Open Seas

  • The speaker highlights the significance of having access to the open sea, which has historically served as a gateway for trade and connection between nations.
  • He argues that preventing the establishment of free private cities would limit opportunities for innovation and progress.

Testing Ideas and Mistakes

  • The speaker believes that every idea, even if considered crazy, should be allowed to be tested in order to learn from mistakes and explore new possibilities.
  • He suggests that restricting the creation of experimental cities would hinder progress and limit potential breakthroughs.

A New Hanseatic League

  • One idea discussed is the formation of a new Hanseatic League, similar to the historical trading alliance in Northern Europe.
  • This league would focus on mutual cooperation among free private cities, including travel arrangements and economic partnerships.

55:54 Understanding the Hanseatic League

In this section, the speaker explains what the Hanseatic League was and how it operated in history.

Introduction to the Hanseatic League

  • The Hanseatic League was an association of trading cities in Northern Europe during medieval times.
  • Its main purpose was to facilitate business transactions by allowing merchants from member cities to freely travel between them while being protected by shared rules.

Success and Influence

  • The Hanseatic League was highly successful in its time, with member cities establishing their own warehouses even in major trading hubs like London.
  • It played a significant role in shaping trade and commerce across the region.

Voluntary Association

  • The Hanseatic League operated as a voluntary association of independent cities.
  • Each city had the freedom to decide whether to join the league and had autonomy over its own laws, as long as it respected the rights and protections of merchants from other member cities.

01:14:36 Lessons from the Hanseatic League for Free Private Cities

In this section, the speaker draws parallels between the Hanseatic League and free private cities, highlighting lessons that can be learned from history.

Small-Scale Governance

  • The speaker notes that both the Hanseatic League and free private cities operate on a smaller scale compared to large nation-states.
  • Smaller entities often have more success in terms of governance and administration.

Limited Impact

  • One advantage of small-scale systems is that any potential negative consequences or damage caused by their actions are limited to themselves or a specific area.
  • This contrasts with larger centralized powers that can have far-reaching impacts.

Autonomy and Cooperation

  • Both the Hanseatic League and free private cities emphasize autonomy for individual members while promoting cooperation among them.
  • They allow cities to maintain their unique identities while benefiting from shared rules and protections.

01:15:30 Future Importance of Cities

In this section, the speaker discusses his perspective on the future importance of cities compared to nation-states.

Growing Significance of Cities

  • The speaker predicts that cities will become increasingly important compared to nation-states in the future.
  • As urban areas continue to grow in population and influence, they will play a more significant role in shaping society and governance.

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01:16:20 The Future of Free Societies

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of service-oriented models and how people can be treated as customers in free societies. They also explore the idea of living outside cities and the potential for free villages or farms to exist as independent jurisdictions.

Service-Oriented Models and Living Outside Cities

  • The speaker suggests that adopting service-oriented models where people are treated as customers could be beneficial for free societies.
  • They mention living on a former farm in a remote area and question how they would fit into the concept of freedom.
  • Living outside cities offers more privacy and freedom compared to city-centric models.
  • The speaker acknowledges that not everyone may want to live in a city again, but states that this will only delay, not stop, the process of people seeking alternative lifestyles.
  • There is a discussion about jurisdictions and whether there will be places like free imperial villages that operate independently under an emperor’s rule.

New Frontiers: Sea and Space

  • The lack of new frontiers is mentioned, with the sea and space being potential options.
  • The speaker suggests that settling on other planets could be a future possibility due to advancements in space exploration.
  • They highlight the practicality of cities in terms of infrastructure setup but also mention the potential for settlements on the sea or other planets.

Jurisdictional Independence

  • The importance of jurisdictional independence is emphasized, particularly for villages and farms.
  • Security is discussed as a crucial aspect, with different jurisdictions potentially capitalizing on their unique systems.
  • Examples are given regarding Indian reservations being sovereign nations but still following certain rules set by host nations.

01:17:55 Settling New Frontiers

In this section, the speaker talks about settling new frontiers and how the universe still offers opportunities for exploration and the establishment of free societies. They also discuss security measures and the potential evolution or devolution of societies.

Settling the Universe

  • The speaker expresses their belief that mankind will eventually settle the universe, although they are unsure when this will happen.
  • Settlements in space are compared to historical explorations over oceans, where people ventured into the unknown.
  • The idea of large borders and different tax and custom systems is mentioned, with host nations potentially requiring security measures like walls or fences.

Security Measures

  • The use of drones and cameras for security purposes is discussed as a cost-effective solution for large areas.
  • The speaker suggests that advancements in technology can provide relatively cheap security options.

Evolution or Devolution

  • There is a discussion about whether societies will evolve or devolve when seeking new frontiers.
  • Historical examples such as Venice being conquered after being a free city for a long time are mentioned.
  • Personal questions are asked about family members’ opinions on these ideas, but no specific answers are provided.

01:19:07 New Frontiers and Family Perspectives

In this section, the speaker briefly touches upon new frontiers appearing as societies evolve or devolve. They also mention personal questions about family perspectives on these concepts.

New Frontiers Appearing

  • The possibility of new frontiers appearing as societies evolve or devolve is acknowledged.
  • Historical examples like Venice being conquered after existing as a free city for centuries are mentioned.

Personal Questions About Family Perspectives

  • The speaker asks personal questions about family members’ thoughts on these ideas but does not provide any specific answers.

01:19:15 The Renaissance and the Crisis of Western Civilization

In this section, the speaker discusses the starting point for cities during the Renaissance and how Western civilization is currently facing a crisis. They highlight the importance of new models and free cities in maintaining a high standard of civilization.

The Importance of New Models and Free Cities

  • The Renaissance marked a significant period for cities and civilization.
  • Western civilization is currently in a crisis, but new models are necessary to address this.
  • Free cities with a small population can maintain a high standard of civilization.
  • Comparing skills today with those from 150 years ago raises doubts about continued progress.

01:01:21 Motivation and Observations

In this section, the speaker discusses their motivation for advocating free cities and shares observations about political systems.

Personal Motivation

  • The speaker’s motivation stems from their observation that Western society is declining.
  • They believe it is their obligation to propose solutions when they identify something wrong.

Observations on Political Systems

  • The speaker reflects on their experience observing political systems in Germany.
  • They express concerns about the reformability of current systems and potential collapse.

01:19:44 Doubts About Continued Progress

In this section, the speaker expresses doubts about whether progress will continue as it has in the past.

Doubts About Progress

  • Considering the skills people had 150 years ago, there are doubts about continued progress.
  • It is necessary for new models to emerge to maintain a high standard of civilization.

01:02:01 Role in Shaping Society

In this section, the speaker discusses their role in shaping society and their belief that free cities can provide a way out of the crisis.

Shaping Society

  • The speaker believes they have a role in shaping society and proposing new ideas.
  • They compare the ease of steering a small city to that of a large country.

01:20:12 Downfall of Western Society and Solutions

In this section, the speaker discusses the downfall of Western society, potential solutions, and their obligation to share ideas with fellow citizens.

Downfall of Western Society

  • The speaker believes that Western society is currently in a crisis.
  • They see this as an opportunity for change and finding solutions.

Obligation to Share Ideas

  • If one identifies something wrong and has a solution, it is their obligation to inform others.
  • The speaker feels compelled to share their proposal for free cities as an alternative model.

01:02:36 Proposal and Observations

In this section, the speaker discusses their proposal for free cities based on observations made over 30 years.

Proposal for Free Cities

  • After observing political systems over many years, the speaker proposes free cities as an alternative model.

01:20:40 Comparing Current Situation with Roman Times

In this section, the speaker compares the current situation with Roman times and highlights advantages such as better connectivity and more political entities.

Advantages Compared to Roman Times

  • Unlike during the decline of the Roman Empire, there are more political entities today.
  • Better connectivity allows for quicker problem-solving and learning from each other’s experiences.

01:04:15 Main Messages Remain Unchanged

In this section, the speaker mentions that despite being published in 2018, they believe the main messages of their book will remain unchanged.

Timelessness of Main Messages

  • The speaker believes that the main messages conveyed in their book will remain relevant over time.

01:22:28 Smooth Transition and Observing Society

The speaker discusses the smooth transition of power from the state and emphasizes the importance of observing and formulating ideas for societal development.

Smooth Transition of Power

  • The speaker describes a smooth transition as a slow draining of power from the state.
  • They believe this is a realistic and beneficial approach for society.
  • The speaker sees their contribution to society as observing and formulating ideas rather than being solely focused on business.

Lessons from the Fall of the Roman Empire

  • The speaker mentions that having only one world government, like during the fall of the Roman Empire, would be disastrous.
  • They highlight the importance of finding one’s strengths and deploying them for societal improvement.
  • The downfall of Rome was characterized by a shift from a successful republic to a dictatorship, leading to a decline in citizen participation and military service.

Long-Term Thinking

  • The speaker expresses satisfaction in studying historical events such as the fall of Rome.
  • They emphasize thinking in very long-term perspectives rather than just focusing on personal lifetime or immediate gains.
  • It is satisfying for them to contribute to improving future generations’ actions through observation and formulation.

01:23:46 Taking Care of Past and Future Generations

The speaker reflects on how societies take care of past and future generations, drawing parallels with historical events. They also discuss their subjective satisfaction in contributing to societal improvement.

Decline of Empires

  • The speaker discusses how empires deteriorate when they fail to realize changing circumstances.
  • They mention that people stop wanting to serve in the military, leading empires to hire others who may not have their best interests at heart.
  • This decline results in dissatisfaction among citizens who prefer tangible benefits like economic prosperity over abstract concepts like patriotism.

Learning from History

  • The speaker finds satisfaction in studying history and learning from past mistakes.
  • They mention the importance of improving future generations’ actions by considering what can be done to enhance their well-being.
  • Taking care of the past and future is a fulfilling endeavor for the speaker.

01:24:03 Libertarianism and Free Market of Ideas

The speaker discusses libertarianism, its reputation, and its recent growth as ideas spread more easily through modern means like the internet.

Libertarianism’s Reputation

  • The speaker acknowledges that libertarianism has had a bad reputation in the past.
  • They attribute this to limited access to information and communication channels prior to the internet era.

Growth of Libertarian Ideas

  • The speaker highlights that libertarian ideas have gained traction in recent years due to increased access to information.
  • They mention how people in Brazil, for example, have become interested in libertarianism after hearing about it.
  • This growth is attributed to an explosion of ideas facilitated by improved communication channels.

01:07:00 Development of Libertarian Ideas

The speaker discusses the historical development of libertarian ideas starting from the 1800s and emphasizes their compatibility with individual freedom.

Industrial Revolution and Individual Freedom

  • The speaker traces the development of libertarian ideas back to the industrial revolution in the 1800s.
  • They highlight how this period sparked discussions on allowing individuals to freely engage in contracts with each other, which was previously uncommon.
  • These ideas align with individual freedom rather than conforming to traditional societal norms.

01:07:34 The Problem with Libertarianism

In this section, the speaker discusses why libertarianism has a bad reputation and how it differs from what people are used to.

Libertarianism and Reputation

  • Libertarianism is often misunderstood and has a bad reputation.
  • It goes against what people are accustomed to in terms of governance and societal systems.
  • Legacy systems, rooted in the past, have shaped people’s expectations.
  • Historically, societies were ruled by the strongest warriors or chiefs.

01:25:34 The Downfall of Empires

This section explores the reasons behind the downfall of empires and draws parallels to today’s world.

Natural Life Cycle of Empires

  • The speaker discusses the natural life cycle of empires.
  • There are similarities between historical empires and current societal structures.
  • Good times do not necessarily create good people or leaders.
  • The transition from tribal rule to elected leaders occurred over time.

01:25:55 Transition to Democracy

This section focuses on the transition from tribal rule to democracy and how it impacted society.

Transition to Democracy

  • Over time, people desired more participation in decision-making processes.
  • Princes elected kings, followed by larger groups electing presidents.
  • Democracy allowed individuals to have a say in governance.

01:26:03 Political Cycle after Crisis

Here, the speaker explains the political cycle that occurs after a crisis and its impact on society.

Political Cycle after Crisis

  • After a crisis, there is a political cycle that begins with electing a leader (king/president).
  • Reasonable individuals come into power with the intention of fixing problems.
  • As society gains more control over their own lives, the need for decision-makers decreases.

01:26:22 Individual Decision-Making

This section emphasizes the importance of individual decision-making and personal freedom.

Individual Decision-Making

  • Individuals should have the freedom to make decisions for themselves.
  • Examples include choosing between sparkling or still water, or deciding on a holiday destination.
  • The speaker highlights the shift towards individual autonomy in decision-making.

01:08:54 Restrictions on Travel

The speaker discusses restrictions on travel and individuals’ loss of decision-making power.

Loss of Travel Freedom

  • People are increasingly restricted in their ability to travel freely.
  • Individuals feel that their freedom to make choices is being limited.

01:26:27 Freedom of Contract and Rule of Law

This section explores the concepts of freedom of contract and rule of law in relation to societal systems.

Freedom of Contract and Rule of Law

  • Freedom of contract and rule of law are essential principles.
  • Society recovers when these principles are upheld.
  • Good people naturally emerge within this framework.

01:26:35 State Intervention and Wealth Creation

Here, the speaker discusses state intervention, wealth creation, and its impact on society.

State Intervention and Wealth Creation

  • State intervention can lead to wealth redistribution.
  • Some individuals advocate for distributing money to those in need.
  • However, this approach may not be sustainable as it reduces productivity.

01:26:43 Left-Wing Policies and Decision-Making

This section focuses on left-wing policies, decision-making, and individual autonomy.

Left-Wing Policies and Decision-Making

  • Left-wing policies often involve decisions made on behalf of others.
  • The speaker suggests creating left-wing free cities to allow for individual decision-making.

01:26:49 The Problem with State Monopoly

This section highlights the issue of state monopoly and its impact on decision-making.

State Monopoly and Decision-Making

  • State monopoly can lead to individuals using force to take from others.
  • Over time, more groups turn to the state for redistribution.
  • The state’s power grows as it becomes the entity responsible for redistribution.

01:26:56 Transfer of Wealth and Market Dynamics

This section explores the transfer of wealth and market dynamics within society.

Transfer of Wealth and Market Dynamics

  • Individuals may seek to increase their standard of living by taking from others.
  • However, most people do not engage in such behavior.
  • The speaker emphasizes that market dynamics are based on voluntary exchanges.

01:27:03 Service Contracts and Living Together

Here, the speaker discusses service contracts and how they contribute to societal cohesion.

Service Contracts and Living Together

  • Service contracts ensure that obligations are fulfilled.
  • Society functions through a network of service contracts in various areas of life.

01:27:07 Punishment and Government Role

This section focuses on punishment, government role, and societal order.

Punishment and Government Role

  • Governments serve as institutions that administer punishment.
  • Some individuals may turn to the state for redistribution or punishment without personal consequences.

01:27:15 Transfer Ideas in Different Areas of Life

This section highlights the transferability of ideas across different areas of life.

Transferability of Ideas

  • The speaker believes that the transfer of ideas, such as service contracts, is possible.
  • Examples from other areas of life provide evidence for the feasibility of new approaches.

01:10:06 Fulfillment and Legal Recourse

This section discusses fulfillment of service contracts and legal recourse in case of non-compliance.

Fulfillment and Legal Recourse

  • Service contracts require fulfillment or legal action can be taken.
  • Individuals have the right to seek legal recourse if obligations are not met.

01:27:21 State as a Punitive Institution

This section explores the role of the state as a punitive institution.

State as a Punitive Institution

  • The state serves as an entity that administers punishment.
  • Over time, more groups turn to the state for redistribution and punishment.

01:27:26 Non-Productive Sectors and Wealth Creation

Here, the speaker discusses non-productive sectors and their impact on wealth creation.

Non-Productive Sectors and Wealth Creation

  • There is an increasing number of individuals working in non-productive sectors.
  • NGOs, education, and other sectors contribute to wealth redistribution rather than creation.

01:27:38 Redistribution Sector and Taxes

This section focuses on the redistribution sector and its connection to taxes.

Redistribution Sector and Taxes

  • NGOs funded by taxes contribute to wealth redistribution.
  • More people leaving productive sectors leads to increased reliance on taxation for funding.

01:27:44 Online Communities Manifesting in Real Life

This section briefly touches upon online communities manifesting in real life.

Online Communities and Real Life

  • The internet facilitates the formation of like-minded communities.
  • These communities can have an impact on real-life interactions and dynamics.

01:28:14 The Role of Printing Money and Increasing Taxes

In this section, the speaker discusses the role of printing money and increasing taxes in the state’s actions. They mention that printing money is an easy way for the state to increase revenue, but it can lead to problems such as inflation. The speaker also highlights the importance of internet communities in preparing for economic changes.

Printing Money and Increasing Taxes

  • The state often resorts to printing money and increasing taxes to generate revenue.
  • This approach can have negative consequences, such as inflation.
  • Internet communities have the advantage of being able to adapt more easily to economic changes.

01:28:44 Challenges in Developing Real Cities

In this section, the speaker discusses challenges faced in developing real cities. They mention that many cities today are facing financial difficulties and resorting to tricks to delay insolvency. The lack of common values and a sense of community is identified as a major bottleneck in city development.

Financial Challenges and Lack of Community

  • Many cities are facing financial difficulties and are using various tactics to postpone insolvency.
  • One major challenge is the lack of common values and a sense of community within these cities.
  • Merely having nice real estate is not enough; a strong community with shared values is essential for successful city development.

01:29:06 Bilateral Contracts as a Solution

In this section, the speaker proposes bilateral contracts as a solution to address issues related to city development. They emphasize that having contracts with city operators allows residents to have a say in how their city operates without interference from external entities.

Bilateral Contracts for City Development

  • Having bilateral contracts with city operators provides residents with a platform to voice their preferences.
  • These contracts ensure that external entities cannot interfere with the agreed-upon terms.
  • The speaker believes that in addition to real estate, common values and a sense of community are crucial for creating a thriving city.

01:29:50 The Importance of Common Values in Free Private Cities

In this section, the speaker emphasizes the importance of common values in free private cities. They discuss how having a contract with the city operator ensures that income distribution and changes to the contract cannot be unilaterally influenced by external entities.

Common Values and Contractual Stability

  • Having common values is essential for maintaining stability and cohesion within free private cities.
  • A contract with the city operator safeguards against external interference in income distribution and contractual changes.
  • Real estate bubbles without a sense of community lack soul and fail to attract residents.

01:30:03 Voluntary Association vs. Legislative Bodies

In this section, the speaker discusses the difference between voluntary association and legislative bodies. They argue that over time, legislative bodies tend to increase laws, taxes, debt, and unproductive individuals. The speaker suggests changing the system to allow people to voluntarily associate under their preferred ideas.

Voluntary Association vs. Legislative Bodies

  • Legislative bodies tend to accumulate more laws, taxes, debt, and unproductive individuals over time.
  • Changing the system to allow voluntary association based on individual preferences can help mitigate these issues.
  • While people should have the right to leave undesirable cities or systems, forceful intervention is not advocated.

01:30:29 Restricting Ideas vs. Allowing Testing

In this section, the speaker discusses restricting ideas versus allowing them to be tested in reality. They mention how even historically restrictive societies eventually see new ideas being tested. The speaker argues that preventing the realization of certain ideas may hinder progress.

Restricting Ideas and Allowing Testing

  • Restricting ideas from becoming reality is often driven by fear and concern from the state.
  • Eventually, every idea that surrounds society will be tested, either in the current or future generations.
  • Preventing the testing of ideas may impede progress and innovation.

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01:31:00 The Desire for Free Private Cities

In this section, the speaker discusses the desire for free private cities and the motivation behind it.

Motivation to Establish Free Private Cities

  • The main reason for establishing free private cities is to retain taxpayers and prevent them from leaving due to limited freedom and excessive regulations.
  • Having a few dropouts from the system would cause limited damage compared to a wrong system affecting a larger population.
  • The current situation can be seen as a form of desperation, similar to what happened in the Soviet Union. However, if only small-scale cities are involved in experimental activities with volunteers, the impact is limited.
  • There is a class of people behaving more feudalistic as they see themselves losing power. This behavior has limited damage on the rest of the world and themselves.

01:31:27 Totalitarianism and Control

In this section, the speaker discusses how governments are becoming more totalitarian and their attempts to control information.

Increasing Totalitarianism

  • Governments are becoming more totalitarian by attempting to censor or control the internet.
  • This trend is not new but rather a continuation of historical patterns where different groups gain power and try to exert control.
  • Currently, there are only 10 companies in the world with over one million employees, with Walmart being the only one with two million. This concentration of power raises concerns about planned development.

01:31:59 Lessons from History

In this section, the speaker draws lessons from history regarding societal decline and service-oriented models.

Lessons from Roman Empire’s Decline

  • During the end phase of the Roman Empire, there were debates about whether it was a catastrophe or not. Some historians argue that smaller administrative units were more successful.
  • The decline of big cities like Rome and Cologne led to a downfall, with people leaving and services deteriorating.
  • The quality of materials and services also declined during this period.
  • The future of states lies in becoming service providers rather than demigods. Treating people as customers and focusing on their needs is crucial for survival.

01:32:17 Transitioning from Current States

In this section, the speaker discusses the transition from current states to new models.

Transition Challenges

  • Transitioning from current states to new models is not a smooth process, despite claims that it is.
  • Historical examples, such as the decline of Rome, show that states can experience significant declines in population and influence over time.
  • It is important for states to adapt and become more service-oriented to survive.

01:32:58 Dark Ages After Roman Empire

In this section, the speaker discusses the dark ages after the fall of the Roman Empire and emphasizes the need for states to evolve into service providers.

Dark Ages After Roman Empire

  • The dark ages after the fall of the Roman Empire were not a myth but a real historical period characterized by societal decline.
  • Historical and archaeological sources provide evidence of this decline.
  • States must adopt service-oriented models where people are treated as customers rather than subjects.

01:33:44 Lack of New Frontiers

In this section, the speaker discusses how lack of new frontiers affects societal development.

Lack of New Frontiers

  • In ancient times, there were frontiers like walls or natural boundaries that limited expansion. Today, there are no new frontiers like space or sea exploration.
  • Lack of new frontiers may lead to stagnation or boredom among people who seek new experiences and challenges.

01:33:52 Future Possibilities

In this section, the speaker discusses the potential for future developments in space exploration.

Future Possibilities

  • The speaker mentions that space exploration could be a potential frontier for future development.
  • Further discussions on the topic are anticipated.

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01:34:15 The Future of Settling the Universe

In this section, the speaker discusses the potential strategies and opportunities for settling the universe and creating free societies. They mention the existence of livable planets and the need for new models to maintain a high standard of civilization.

Strategies for Mitigating Challenges in Settling the Universe

  • 01:34:15 The speaker suggests that one strategy is to focus on better systems of living together, rather than catering to specific religions or beliefs.
  • 01:34:20 They mention “billars,” which were self-subsidized farms with walls around them where wealthy individuals could create their own economies.
  • 01:34:48 The speaker highlights the importance of exploring new frontiers and creating free societies, similar to how people ventured over oceans in the past without knowing what was on the other side.

The Evolution of Settlement and Potential Challenges

  • 01:35:01 The concept of “flag theory” is mentioned, which involves using multiple countries for residency and moving between them.
  • 01:35:12 While temporary solutions like flag theory exist, there is a need for long-term settlement options due to potential issues with changing rules in states.
  • 01:35:30 Private cities are discussed as safe havens with stable rules that can provide a way out during times of crisis or devolution.

Free Cities as New Models for Civilization

  • 01:36:04 The speaker emphasizes that free cities can be a solution to maintain a high standard of civilization while requiring only a certain amount of land and several thousand people.
  • 01:36:29 They mention examples such as Monaco, Liechtenstein, Montenegro, and Channel Islands as existing opportunities for settlement.
  • 01:36:42 The speaker suggests that the downfall of Western society may accelerate the need for new models like free cities to address current crises and problems.

01:17:50 The Potential for Livable Planets

In this section, the speaker discusses the statistical likelihood of there being livable planets in the universe and the potential for settling on these planets.

  • 01:17:50 The speaker mentions that statistically, there is a high probability of there being livable planets in the universe.
  • 01:18:15 They express their belief that settling the universe is the future of mankind, although they acknowledge uncertainty about when it will happen.
  • 01:19:51 The speaker highlights the necessity of new models and settlements to maintain a high standard of civilization as current systems face challenges.

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01:21:04 The Fall of the Roman Empire and Current Projects

In this section, the speaker discusses the differences between the fall of the Roman Empire and the current situation. They also mention ongoing projects related to creating free cities.

Differences from the Fall of the Roman Empire

  • The current situation is different from when the Roman Empire was declining.
  • There are more Western and industrialized countries now, not all going down at the same time.
  • The internet has connected people globally, allowing for quicker learning and association.

Ongoing Projects for Free Cities

  • The speaker mentions that there are ongoing projects related to creating free cities.
  • They refer to a directory of the Free Cities Foundation where some projects can be found.
  • One interesting development mentioned is in Channel Islands, which resembles an individual’s ability to solve problems faster than larger outcomes.

01:21:23 Transitioning to New Systems and Political Entities

This section focuses on transitioning to new systems and political entities in today’s world.

  • Comparing to Roman times, there are many more political entities now that create arbitrage options.
  • With better connectivity and quicker learning, it becomes easier to adapt and associate with new systems.
  • The speaker mentions a strategy called “Teapolis” where they reach out to several governments simultaneously to mitigate political risk.

01:21:47 Future Projects and Smooth Transition

Here, future projects related to Teapolis are discussed along with a smooth transition process.

  • While not disclosing current projects for safety reasons, the speaker mentions upcoming projects in the next three to five years.
  • Teapolis aims to create international cities based on the free private city model, adapting them according to local situations.
  • A slow draining of power from the state is seen as the smoothest and most realistic transition.
  • Being a resident of an international city provides additional advantages and the ability to easily move to another international city.

01:23:20 Deterioration of the Roman Empire

This section delves into the deterioration of the Roman Empire and its transition from a republic to a dictatorship.

  • The Roman Empire started as a successful republic where only taxpayers who defended the country had voting rights.
  • Over time, it deteriorated into a dictatorship, with big kings hiring other people for military service.
  • The empires failed to realize what was happening, leading to its downfall.

01:37:17 Failed Project in Africa and Adapting Structures

Here, the speaker discusses a failed project in Africa and adapting structures based on host nations’ requirements.

  • The speaker mentions a failed project in Africa that lasted two years due to changes in government leadership.
  • They highlight their focus on upcoming projects within three to five years, following Teapolis’ new strategy.
  • Adapting structures based on what host nations want allows for smoother transitions and greater acceptance.

01:38:10 Mitigating Political Risk and International City Concept

This section focuses on mitigating political risk and introducing the concept of an international city by Teapolis.

  • Teapolis aims to reach out to several governments simultaneously to mitigate political risk.
  • The goal is to create an international city based on the free private city model, adapting it according to local situations.
  • By having more international cities, individuals can easily move between them, providing additional advantages similar to ancient leagues.

01:39:00 Downfall of the Roman Empire and Similar Models

This section explores the downfall of the Roman Empire and mentions similar models in different regions.

  • The speaker refers to books they have read about the downfall of the Roman Empire, including Gibbon’s work.
  • They mention that Africa and Central America could be potential hotspots for similar models.
  • Bitcoin City and innovative governments like El Salvador are also mentioned as potential examples.

01:39:25 Challenges in Europe for Free City Projects

Here, challenges related to free city projects in Europe are discussed.

  • The European Union does not allow for special economic zones or countries seeking membership to create such projects.
  • It is challenging to get things done in Europe due to these restrictions, making it currently unfavorable for free city initiatives.

01:40:19 The Establishment of Special Economic Zones

This section discusses the establishment of special economic zones in the UK after Brexit, which are seen as a way to keep the people happy but may not be effective in the long run.

Special Economic Zones as Bread and Circuses

  • The UK established 10 special economic zones after Brexit.
  • These zones are seen as bread and circuses, aimed at keeping the people happy.
  • However, they lack innovation and have been tried before without success.

Parallels with Early Christianity

  • The speaker mentions parallels between early Christianity and the establishment of special economic zones.
  • In the first 400 years, Christianity was focused on praying for the end of the world and had no incentive to improve their well-being.
  • Similarly, special economic zones may not lead to significant changes or improvements.

01:25:03 Waiting for the End

This section briefly touches upon how waiting for an impending end can affect societies.

Waiting for the End in Early Christianity

  • Early Christians believed that the world would come to an end soon.
  • This belief influenced their actions and mindset during that time.

01:40:47 View on Brexit

The speaker shares their view on Brexit, considering it a net positive despite short-term disadvantages.

Net Positive Outcome

  • The speaker views Brexit as leaving an empire before its decline.
  • While there may be short-term costs, they believe it is ultimately a good thing.
  • They also anticipate other countries following suit.

01:41:16 Free Cities and Nihilism

This section discusses free cities and draws parallels with nihilism in ancient times.

Free Cities and Cults

  • The concept of free cities is mentioned, but its applicability to the current situation is unclear.
  • The speaker mentions that some cults in ancient times were nihilistic, similar to certain attitudes today.

01:41:35 Downfall of the Roman Empire

This section explores parallels between the downfall of the Roman Empire and current events.

Parallels with the Roman Empire

  • The speaker suggests that studying the downfall of the Roman Empire reveals many parallels with today’s world.
  • They mention unsuccessful attempts to make designated special economic zones more autonomous.

01:41:50 Natural Life Cycle of an Empire

This section discusses the natural life cycle of an empire and why good times don’t necessarily create good people.

Life Cycle of an Empire

  • The speaker ponders whether they are discussing the natural life cycle of an empire or something else.
  • They question why empires decline and why good times don’t always lead to good people.

01:42:01 Sabbatical and Hypothetical Scenarios

This section explores hypothetical scenarios related to taking a sabbatical and creating a perfect system.

Sabbatical and Perfect System

  • The speaker asks what they would do if they took a sabbatical or had unlimited resources for a year.
  • They discuss how a perfect system where everyone is wealthy can lead to crazy ideas.
  • They also mention the political cycle and how reasonable people come into power after a crisis.

01:42:26 Negotiating with Government

This section delves into negotiating with governments when establishing free cities.

Using Money as Collateral

  • The speaker suggests using money as collateral when negotiating with the government to establish a free city.
  • They believe that having a significant amount of money in the background strengthens their negotiating position.

01:26:58 Taking from Others

This section discusses how some groups take advantage of the state to increase their standard of living at the expense of others.

Taking Advantage of the State

  • The speaker mentions that some groups exploit the state to take from others and improve their own lives.
  • However, most people feel bad about taking without permission or payment.

01:42:38 Starting a New Free City

This section explores starting a new free city and using money as leverage during negotiations with governments.

Using Money as Leverage

  • The speaker suggests starting a new free city with a significant amount of money as leverage during negotiations with the government.
  • They believe that alone, having substantial funds can be a strong argument when dealing with governments.

01:27:33 The Problem with Redistribution

This section discusses the issue of redistribution and how it leads to a decrease in productivity and an increase in dependency on the state.

The Cycle of Redistribution

  • When an entity has the power to redistribute wealth, more people leave the productive sector and rely on redistribution.
  • Over time, this leads to a decrease in the number of people creating wealth and an increase in dependency on the state.
  • Eventually, the state runs out of money and resorts to printing more money, which further devalues currency.

01:28:16 Increasing Taxes and Printing Money

This section explores the consequences of increasing taxes and resorting to printing money as a means of funding government programs.

The Laffer Curve and Printing Money

  • Increasing taxes can only go up to a certain point before it becomes counterproductive.
  • When the state runs out of funds, it often resorts to printing money, which leads to inflation.
  • By buying its own bonds, the state essentially prints money, further exacerbating financial issues.

01:28:48 The Need for Reforms

This section highlights the importance of implementing reforms when facing insolvency.

Insolvency and Reforms

  • Insolvency is inevitable if proper measures are not taken.
  • Reforms are necessary to address financial issues effectively.
  • Elon Musk’s stance on holding his ground against increasing taxes is admirable.

01:29:08 Bilateral Contracts as a Solution

This section proposes bilateral contracts as a solution to prevent wealth redistribution by providing individuals with autonomy over their income.

Bilateral Contracts for Autonomy

  • A bilateral contract between individuals and city operators can prevent interference from the state in income distribution.
  • This solution aims to address the problem of a powerful entity, like the state, taking away wealth from others.

01:43:11 Engaging Billionaires in Change

This section discusses the importance of involving billionaires in advocating for change and their tendency to focus on creating their own cities.

Involving Billionaires for Change

  • Engaging billionaires is crucial for driving change.
  • Many billionaires are interested in creating their own cities but often lack legal autonomy.
  • Increasing awareness about the benefits of legal autonomy can encourage more billionaires to support change.

01:43:29 Elon Musk’s Libertarian Stance

This section explores Elon Musk’s evolving stance towards libertarian principles and his defense of free speech.

Elon Musk’s Libertarian Leanings

  • Elon Musk is seen as morphing into a libertarian figure.
  • He defends free speech and challenges censorship by state-funded NGOs.
  • His principles align with the direction of libertarianism.

01:43:53 Misinformation and Mainstream Media

This section highlights how mainstream media and state authorities have been sources of misinformation during events like COVID, contrasting with Elon Musk’s approach.

Misinformation from Mainstream Media

  • Most misinformation during events like COVID originates from mainstream media and state authorities.
  • Elon Musk stands out by challenging this narrative and holding his ground against it.

01:44:19 Trusting Elon Musk’s Principles

This section emphasizes trust in Elon Musk’s principles despite potential concerns about Tesla’s valuation.

Trusting Elon Musk’s Principles

  • While Tesla may be overvalued, trusting Elon Musk’s principles is important.
  • Peter Thiel advises not to cope with or trust Elon, but his principles and actions suggest otherwise.
  • Elon Musk’s commitment to walking the talk is admirable.

01:44:45 Elon Musk and the Free Cities Model

This section highlights Elon Musk’s potential role as a proponent of the free cities model, given his ambitions for Mars colonization.

Elon Musk and Free Cities

  • Elon Musk’s involvement in Mars colonization positions him as a significant advocate for the free cities model.
  • Mars represents a new frontier that requires innovative governance models.
  • His presence could be instrumental in promoting the concept of free cities.

01:45:09 Taking Away State Power

This section discusses the importance of limiting state power, particularly its ability to take from others through taxation.

Limiting State Power

  • It is crucial to remove the state’s authority to take from others through taxation.
  • The idea is to establish maximum annual fees based on international agreements rather than allowing unilateral changes by the state.

01:45:28 Overcoming Legislative Inefficiencies

This section explores how legislative bodies create inefficiencies through constant lawmaking and increasing taxes.

Legislative Inefficiencies

  • Legislative bodies tend to create new laws and increase taxes over time, leading to inefficiencies.
  • Overcoming these inefficiencies requires consistent and plausible ideas that challenge existing systems.

01:45:34 Consistency and Plausibility of Ideas

This section emphasizes the importance of consistent and plausible ideas in driving change despite resistance from established systems.

Consistency and Plausibility in Ideas

  • Consistent and plausible ideas have a higher chance of gaining acceptance over time.
  • Despite resistance from established systems, these ideas can eventually prevail.

01:46:00 The Treaty of Tordesillas and the Distribution of Power

This section discusses the Treaty of Tordesillas and how Spain and Portugal divided their roles in the exploration and colonization of new territories. It also mentions restrictions on movement during that time.

The Treaty of Tordesillas

  • 01:46:13 The Treaty of Tordesillas was an agreement between Spain and Portugal to divide their roles in exploration and colonization.
  • 01:46:24 People were moving away from the Roman Empire, leading to a sense of desperation.
  • 01:46:32 The main reason for dividing territories was to retain taxpayers.
  • 01:46:49 There is a comparison between the desperation during Roman times and current times.

Feudalistic Behavior and Totalitarianism

  • 01:46:44 People sought to start their own colonies or communities for more freedom.
  • 01:46:56 There is concern about future generations facing similar situations.
  • 01:47:16 Comparisons are made between the fall of the Roman Empire and current societal challenges.
  • 01:47:32 Some historians claim that there were smooth transitions after the fall of empires, but this is disputed.

Free Cities as a Solution

  • 01:47:45 Examples are given where cities declined due to hostile governments or other factors.
  • 01:47:59 Competition among countries can lead to positive outcomes.
  • 01:48:18 The focus now is on finding solutions for societal challenges.

01:47:32 Lessons from History: Fall of Empires

This section explores historical examples, such as the fall of the Roman Empire, to draw lessons about societal decline and the need for solutions.

Societal Decline and Downfall

  • 01:47:52 The fall of empires is compared to the current situation.
  • 01:48:11 The decline of cities, starvation, and societal challenges are mentioned.
  • 01:48:30 Examples from the East Block in 1990 are given as evidence of societal decline.

Creating a New World

  • 01:48:37 The focus is on creating a new world and finding solutions.
  • 01:48:43 The importance of competition among countries is highlighted.
  • 01:47:59 Historical examples show that societies can recover and rebuild.

01:48:30 Testimony of Societal Change

This section emphasizes the witness of societal change and draws parallels between past events and the present.

Witnessing Societal Change

  • 01:48:37 Personal testimony is given about witnessing societal change.
  • 01:47:16 Comparisons are made between historical events like the fall of Rome and recent changes.
  • 01:48:18 Lessons from history can guide us in finding solutions to current challenges.

01:48:55 The Traumatic Change in Rome

This section discusses the significant changes that occurred in Rome and the need to adapt and find solutions for the future.

The Need for Change

  • Rome experienced a traumatic change, which did not happen overnight but had a profound impact.
  • In the past, life in Rome was comfortable with good times and beautiful buildings, but there was no need for change.
  • The situation changed, and now there is a need to think about and work towards finding solutions.

Presenting Solutions

  • It is satisfying to present solutions, even if they are not fully developed or perfect.
  • These solutions can serve as attempts or strategies for future generations to build upon.
  • It is essential to learn from history and understand what strategies were effective in mitigating challenges.

Adapting to New Technologies

  • Just like Bitcoin is known from birth by people born today, new technologies shape the mindset of future generations.
  • Being adaptable and open-minded allows us to embrace new technologies and navigate changing circumstances effectively.

01:49:42 Strategies Going Forward

This section explores the best strategies for moving forward amidst uncertainties and challenges.

Mobility and Flag Theory

  • Today, individuals have more options and mobility compared to the past.
  • Utilizing flag theory allows individuals to establish residency in multiple countries, providing flexibility.

Temporary Solutions

  • Many current regulations imposed by nation-states will eventually come to an end.
  • However, these temporary solutions do not address the underlying problems of constantly changing rules.

Creating Safe Havens

  • Establishing free private cities as safe havens can provide stability amidst uncertain political landscapes.
  • These cities would operate under clear rules that are not subject to sudden changes by governments.

Government as a Service

  • A voluntary decision-making system, where government functions as a service, can be a viable solution.
  • This approach ensures that the rules and services provided by the government are efficient and meet the needs of the residents.

01:50:33 Conclusion

The conclusion emphasizes the importance of creating safe havens and finding innovative solutions for a better future.

  • Creating safe havens with stable rules is crucial to avoid repeating past systems or falling into dictatorships.
  • It is essential to embrace new ideas and establish systems that are suitable for the 21st century.
  • By leaving behind outdated systems and focusing on innovative solutions, we can create a better future.