Marthinus Grobler: Free City Design, Fiat Architecture & New Urbanism

by | Dec 15, 2023 | Podcast

“If you have these ecologies of freedom, you can make amazing cities and that is one of the best things you can do.  I think you’ll be hard pressed to do it somewhere else these days. Even existing, amazing cities are being ruined by bad policy and not being allowed to mature or being allowed to mature enough.. There is no price discovery in the market of living together.

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Todays’ podcast is an episode about Free City planning with Tipolis’s chief architect, Marthinus Grobler.

I loved talking with Martinus. Not least because he let me rant about one of my personal bugbears, Modernist architecture. However, lovers of brutalism should not despair, since our discussion also touches upon subjects such as urban design, progressivism, central planning, new urbanism, and fiat architecture. I also get Martinus’s opinion on what he thinks of the way that the design of the modern Emirates has evolved as a possible case study for urban planning in the future, something that has left me wondering whether skyscrapers and high-rise buildings are even a good idea at all.

Enjoy the conversation.

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The host introduces the podcast and mentions that it is the official podcast of the Free Cities Foundation. He also talks about his week leading up to Christmas.

Introduction and Week Update

  • The host, Timothy Allen, welcomes listeners to episode number 56 of the Free Cities Podcast.
  • He mentions that he has had an enjoyable week leading up to Christmas, especially with children in his house.
  • The host shares that he has been rereading a book called “When Money Dies” by Adam Fergusson, which he used for a speech preparation.
  • While researching for the speech, he came across information about the Weimar Republic hyper-inflation in 1923.
  • The host mentions a bill proposed by the Bavarian Prime Minister during that time to make gluttony a penal offense. He shares some humorous thoughts on this topic.
  • The book “When Money Dies” provides an excellent account of that year and draws parallels to some experiences in today’s world. The host quotes Erna von Pustau from the book regarding the devaluation of money during hyper-inflation.
  • He emphasizes the importance of getting educated rather than getting mad about such situations.

The host introduces Marthinus Grobler as the chief architect at Tipolis, a prominent company in Free City planning and operation of projects worldwide.

Introduction of Marthinus Grobler

  • Marthinus Grobler is introduced as the chief architect at Tipolis, a leading company in the Free City space.
  • The host mentions his personal dislike for modernist architecture and expresses his excitement to discuss it with Marthinus.
  • The conversation with Marthinus will cover topics such as urban design, progressivism, central planning, new urbanism, and the evolution of Emirates as a case study for urban planning.

The host begins a conversation with Marthinus Grobler about his role as an architect and designing Free Cities.

Marthinus’s Background and Role

  • The host asks Marthinus about his background before joining Tipolis and how he ended up designing free cities.
  • Marthinus explains that he studied architecture and practiced in South Africa on various projects before joining Tipolis. He emphasizes the importance of designing Free Cities specifically.

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06:56 Career History

In this section, the speaker discusses their introduction to libertarianism and how the Mises Institute played a role in clarifying their position. They also mention the influence of like-minded individuals in South Africa.

Introduction to Libertarianism

  • The Mises Institute has been instrumental in clarifying the speaker’s position on libertarianism.
  • The institute has successfully brought people from various backgrounds into the libertarian lifestyle.
  • The speaker was introduced to libertarian ideas by like-minded individuals in South Africa.

07:20 Questioning the Status Quo

In this section, the speaker reflects on their early realization that things didn’t make sense and questions the mythology surrounding the idea of a state and central planning.

Early Realization

  • From an early age, things didn’t make sense to the speaker, leading them to question the mythology surrounding the state and central planning.
  • Many children can easily see through the layers of mythology used to validate these concepts.
  • The speaker also expresses frustration with how architecture is negatively influenced by state mandates and overregulation.

08:13 Finding the Free Cities Movement

Here, the speaker discusses their connection with the Free Cities movement and how they were introduced to it through contacts in South Africa.

Connection with Free Cities Movement

  • The speaker learned about Titus Gebel through contacts in South Africa, which led them to realize the potential of creating ecologies of freedom for building amazing cities.
  • Existing cities are being ruined by bad policies and lack of protection, making it difficult to create such cities elsewhere.

09:10 City Design

In this section, the speaker highlights how existing amazing cities are being hindered from reaching their full potential due to bad policies and lack of protection. They emphasize that there is no price discovery in how people should live together.

Challenges in City Design

  • Even existing amazing cities are being ruined by bad policies and lack of protection.
  • There is a lack of price discovery in determining how people should live together.
  • The speaker expresses the difficulty in designing cities on a large scale, as their previous projects were limited by zoning regulations.

10:18 Influences

Here, the speaker discusses their approach to designing Free Cities and where they draw their conclusions from. They also touch upon the influence of architecture school and the modernist movement.

Designing Free Cities

  • The speaker draws inspiration for designing Free Cities from various sources, including discussions with people and studying nature’s patterns.
  • Architecture school has both good and bad ideas, with the modernist movement having a negative impact on building design.
  • The intellectual class in architecture often favors modernist designs, while the average person prefers classic or traditional styles.

12:21 Modernism

In this section, the speaker explores possible reasons behind the existence of the modernist movement and its impact on architecture. They discuss human nature’s inclination towards being led by an elite class and how this desire for central planning may have influenced architectural trends.

Understanding the Modernist Movement

  • Human nature has always had an inclination to be led by an elite class, which can be seen throughout history.
  • Central planning has been driven by a desire for power and control, leading to artificial growth of nation-states.
  • Architecture schools reinforce the idea that architects are part of an elite group that should dictate how society is designed.

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14:18 Origins of the Modernist movement

The speaker discusses why modernism became a prominent art movement after the war and its rejection of tradition.

Why Modernism Became Prominent

  • After the war, there were many competing art movements, but modernism stood out.
  • Modernists positioned themselves against traditionalism and traditional architecture.
  • They wanted to escape the hegemony of tradition and be critical of the past.
  • These ideas were transplanted to US universities and proliferated unchallenged for a long time.

15:17 Rejecting Tradition

The speaker explains how modernism aimed to reject tradition and remake society, leading to the rejection of beauty.

Rejecting Tradition in Remaking Society

  • Modernists sought to remake society by rejecting tradition.
  • They believed that rejecting tradition was necessary to validate their position.
  • Beauty, especially in its classical form, was one of the traditions rejected by modernism.
  • This rejection of beauty can also be seen in progressivism today.

16:32 Rejecting Beauty

The speaker reflects on the strange decision to reject beauty and highlights our innate appreciation for it.

Rejection of Beauty

  • It is strange to reject something like beauty that has been historically cherished by people.
  • Our deep pursuit for beauty is part of human nature and remains unchanged over time.

17:19 Redesigning Society

The speaker discusses how modernists aimed to redesign society based on reason and create a new idea of the modern man.

Redesigning Society Based on Reason

  • Modernists wanted to redesign society after the war using reason as their foundation.
  • They envisioned a new idea of the modern man that went against human nature.
  • Their focus was primarily on the relationship between individuals and the state, neglecting other aspects of society.

17:59 Voluntary Cooperation

The speaker emphasizes the importance of voluntary cooperation and how it leads to strong and resilient super organisms within society.

Importance of Voluntary Cooperation

  • Giving individuals freedom leads to voluntary cooperation, which is inherent in human nature.
  • Voluntary cooperation creates strong and adaptable super organisms within society.
  • These super organisms, such as clubs, churches, neighborhoods, and economies, remain even after individuals pass away.

19:45 Rejection of Modernism

The speaker discusses postmodernism’s rejection of modernism and its shift towards a more socialist and radical approach based on feelings rather than reason.

Postmodernism’s Rejection of Modernism

  • Postmodernists rejected modernism as they found it too ugly and not radical enough.
  • They wanted something more socialist and radical in their approach to redesigning society.
  • Postmodernism emphasized feelings over reason, leading to deconstructionist philosophies.

20:11 Common Threads

The speaker acknowledges the complexity of understanding these art movements but highlights the common thread of redesigning society.

Common Thread: Redesigning Society

  • Both modernism and postmodernism share a common goal of redesigning society.
  • While complex, this lens provides an interesting perspective for understanding these art movements.

21:52 Fiat Architecture

In this section, the speaker discusses the impact of the monetary system on architecture and design.

The Influence of Fiat Money on Architecture

  • 21:52The speaker questions why certain architectural designs are chosen and suggests that the monetary system may play a role in this decision-making process.
  • 22:19Another person mentioned in the discussion believes that fiat money has negatively affected architecture, leading to the creation of cheap and unappealing buildings.
  • 22:49The concept of “fiat architecture” is introduced, suggesting that the pressures of the fiat money system result in poorly designed buildings that are easily replaceable.
  • 23:11The speaker tends to agree with this notion, stating that the broken monetary system hinders real price discovery and prevents people from investing in beautiful places.
  • 23:35True price discovery would reveal that people are willing to pay more for aesthetically pleasing environments, which is often overlooked by utilitarian modernism.
  • 24:06This preference for traditional architecture can be observed in the housing market, where older houses command higher prices than newer ones of similar size and shape.

24:16 Limitations

In this section, the discussion continues on how central planning and design can limit creativity and fail to capture the preferences of individuals.

The Limitations of Central Planning

  • 24:16The speaker suggests that centrally planned societies struggle to create beautiful urban environments because they cannot fully understand what attracts people to certain designs.
  • 24:52Attempts at central planning often result in subpar architecture as it lacks input from a diverse range of architects and builders.
  • 25:17By embracing a process-oriented approach and incorporating the feedback of many individuals, a more organic and aesthetically pleasing outcome can be achieved.
  • 25:52The speaker highlights the importance of trust in the process and emphasizes that price discovery is essential for creating a well-designed city.
  • 26:46Designing by committee allows for a diverse range of perspectives to shape the city, rather than relying solely on the vision of a few elites.

27:06 Traditional Cities

In this section, the discussion focuses on how traditional cities are composed of smaller projects and how this concept can be incorporated into designing a free city.

Incorporating Small Projects in City Design

  • 27:06Traditional cities are made up of numerous smaller projects that contribute to their overall character.
  • 27:32By tapping into the power of collaboration and individual builders, a free city can incorporate diverse ideas and benefit from quicker price discovery.
  • 27:54While major aspects of city design may be planned, allowing for organic evolution and input from various architects and owners is crucial for achieving an aesthetically pleasing result.
  • 28:10A good plan would involve inviting different architects and stakeholders to contribute to the design process, ensuring an ecology of freedom with minimal regulations.
  • 28:23The goal is to create a free city where there is ample opportunity for price discovery, limited taxation, voluntary commitments, and protection of life and property.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the process of building a typology and the importance of making decisions while adapting to new information. They also mention the limitations faced by movements like new urbanism in implementing their ideas.

Building a Typology and Adapting to New Information

  • The speaker emphasizes the need to make certain decisions and take a stab at building a typology.
  • As the process unfolds, new information is obtained, allowing for contingency plans and learning opportunities.
  • The speaker highlights the advantage of having a hive mind rather than relying on decisions made by a few individuals.

Limitations of Movements like New Urbanism

  • The speaker mentions movements like new urbanism that advocate for more traditional typologies in urban planning.
  • However, they point out that these movements often lack jurisdiction to implement their ideas effectively.
  • Copying only the outcome without considering contextual factors may not be successful in creating sustainable cities.

In this section, the speaker further explains new urbanism as a movement focused on creating more traditional-looking cities with mixed-use areas and walkability. They discuss the importance of copying not just the outcome but also understanding and replicating the underlying process.

Understanding New Urbanism

  • New urbanism promotes traditional typologies in urban planning with mixed-use areas and walkability.
  • It aims to create cities that are more human-centered and visually appealing while still considering functionality.
  • The speaker emphasizes that simply copying the outcome without understanding or replicating the underlying process may not lead to successful implementation.

In this section, the speaker discusses how historical processes shape cities over time. They highlight that successful cities emerge through continuous adaptation based on factors such as price discovery, labor division, and the formation of connections.

Historical Processes Shaping Cities

  • Successful cities emerge through a continuous process of adaptation over time.
  • Factors such as price discovery, labor division, and the formation of connections contribute to the growth and development of cities.
  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of having numerous face-to-face connections and walkability to foster the emergence and health of superorganisms within a city.

In this section, the speaker discusses the process of starting a free city. They mention the importance of establishing basic rules regarding property rights and volunteerism while considering patterns from history for guidance.

Starting a Free City

  • Instead of relying solely on court battles over property rights, it is suggested to establish basic rules that promote an ecology of freedoms.
  • Patterns from history can serve as valuable guidance in shaping a free city’s initial plan.
  • The topography and context-specific factors should be considered when allocating different zones or areas within the city.

In this section, the speaker explains two approaches to modeling a free city – using inputs into a model or learning from historical trial-and-error processes. They emphasize that learning from history allows for understanding intangible aspects that cannot be measured.

Modeling a Free City

  • Two approaches to modeling a free city are discussed – using inputs into a model or learning from historical trial-and-error processes.
  • While modeling can be helpful, there are limitations in capturing certain intangible aspects.
  • Learning from historical processes allows for understanding elements that may not be measurable but have shaped successful cities in the past.

In this section, the speaker highlights how starting a free city allows for quick adaptation and the incorporation of design elements before physical construction. They mention the importance of involving interested parties in envisioning the future of the city.

Quick Adaptation and Design Process

  • Starting a free city enables quick adaptation and flexibility to make changes if something doesn’t work.
  • The design process should involve interested parties, such as property owners and society, to gamify and envision the future of the city.
  • Incorporating design elements before physical construction allows for better planning and consideration of how the city would have naturally emerged.

In this section, the speaker discusses considerations when allocating resources and planning a free city. They mention factors like topography, cultural context, patterns, networks of mobility, and core networks.

Allocating Resources and Planning a Free City

  • Considerations when allocating resources include topography, cultural context, patterns from history, networks of mobility, and core networks.
  • Christopher Alexander’s work on patterns is mentioned as a valuable resource for developing adaptable patterns that suit different contexts.
  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of adjusting patterns to fit specific cultural contexts and changes over time.

36:57 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of allowing for variety and different situations in city planning. They also mention the value of reserving space for future development and the potential role of city operators in building attractive projects to attract people.

Allowing for Variety and Different Situations

  • 36:57 The speaker emphasizes the need to allow for a lot of variety and different situations in city planning.
  • 37:04 This approach helps determine which aspects are more popular or not in different contexts.
  • 37:10 Historical studies show that certain elements may only be valued later in a city’s evolution, such as parks, which may have a higher premium as the city matures.

Role of City Operators

  • 37:36 The initial design and rollout of a city can involve city operators building attractive projects like lighthouse projects or town squares to attract people.
  • 38:02 These projects can serve as focal points around which other developments form, with considerations given to factors like street definition, height limits, materials used, and climate response.
  • 38:30 The speaker highlights the importance of having variety in design to avoid a stale appearance and acknowledges people’s creativity in creating beautiful things over time.

38:55 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses how beauty emerges through both accepted and rejected designs. They also mention the possibility of having experimental neighborhoods with different rules and regulations.

Emergence of Beauty

  • 38:55 Beauty emerges from both accepted designs and rejected ones that are modified over time based on their impact on business or changing trends.
  • 39:19 Experimental neighborhoods could be created where residents have more freedom within certain limits, allowing for different approaches to design and development.

Different Rules and Regulations

  • 39:45 The speaker suggests having different neighborhoods with varying rules and regulations to see which ones are popular and profitable.
  • 40:05 They mention the idea of a property right without restrictions, where individuals can build whatever they want, as something many people would be interested in.
  • 40:40 Informal surveys indicate that opinions vary on whether people prefer uniformity or diversity in building styles and designs.

41:02 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses the personality types and preferences of individuals who would be interested in living in a free city.

Personality Types

  • 41:02 The speaker mentions that there may be a 50-50 split between people who prefer order and those who prefer chaos.
  • 41:28 They suggest that pioneers who move to a free city may have certain personality traits or preferences.
  • 41:47 The speaker highlights individualism as an important factor, with different groups of people wanting to build tree houses or tower blocks.

42:13 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses the preferred building style of pioneers in a free city and how individualistic choices may differ from mainstream preferences.

Preferred Building Style

  • 42:13 The speaker suggests that pioneers in a free city may have diverse preferences when it comes to building styles.
  • 42:30 They mention that while some individuals may prefer quirky and unique designs, others may be content with more conventional options.
  • 42:53 The reference is made to the fiat world where price discovery is limited, indicating that unconventional designs might not sell well. However, historical examples like the gold standard era show different architectural patterns.

43:15 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses certain patterns that reappear across the globe in city planning, such as walkability, incrementalism, response to local climate and materials, and the importance of public space.

Patterns in City Planning

  • 43:15 The speaker mentions that certain patterns reappear independently across different regions.
  • 43:15 These patterns include a focus on walkability, incremental development, consideration of local climate and materials, and the need for well-designed public spaces.

43:48 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses patterns that appear independently in different contexts and emphasizes the importance of not ignoring them. The rejection of certain ideas due to contradictions is highlighted, along with the concept of power dynamics influencing societal discussions.

Patterns and Contradictions

  • The speaker observes recurring patterns that should not be ignored (t=2628s).
  • Rejection of ideas due to contradictions is discussed (t=2628s).
  • Power dynamics play a significant role in shaping societal discussions (t=2727s).

44:11 Descriptive Title

This section focuses on the concept of creating a new type of individual based on specific values and how it relates to power dynamics. The rejection of universally accepted ideas is also mentioned.

Creating a New Type of Individual

  • Efforts are made to create a new type of individual with specific values (t=2651s).
  • Power dynamics influence the demand for recognition and adherence to certain identities (t=2814s).
  • Rejection of universally accepted ideas challenges existing power structures (t=2751s).

44:30 Descriptive Title

The speaker explores the idea that everything is open for question and debate, including fundamental concepts like ethics and mathematical principles. The difficulty in accepting the rejection of ethics is highlighted.

Questioning Everything

  • Everything is open for question and debate, including fundamental concepts (t=2670s).
  • One plus one equals two is presented as an example of something provable (t=2691s).
  • Some debates exist around mathematical principles like infinity (t=2706s).

45:01 Descriptive Title

The speaker reflects on the notion that power plays a significant role in societal discussions. The demand for recognition and the assertion of individual identity are discussed.

Power Dynamics in Societal Discussions

  • Power dynamics influence societal discussions (t=2727s).
  • Demands for recognition and specific forms of address are seen as power games (t=2767s).
  • The exploitation of power structures is highlighted (t=2814s).

46:24 Descriptive Title

The speaker discusses the modernist movement and its rejection of past ideologies. The consequences of rejecting established norms are examined.

Rejection of Established Norms

  • The modernist movement emerged after World War I as a rejection of past ideologies (t=2834s).
  • Rejection of established norms can lead to unintended consequences (t=2871s).
  • Bizarre architectural designs that disregard human needs are mentioned (t=2887s).

48:36 Descriptive Title

This section explores the idea that swinging from one extreme to another does not solve the underlying problem. Building alternatives and challenging existing power structures is proposed as a solution.

Swinging from One Extreme to Another

  • Swinging from one extreme to another does not solve the underlying problem (t=2916s).
  • Challenging existing power structures through building alternatives is suggested (t=2938s).
  • Creating parallel institutions and civic societies can fill gaps left by governments (t=2955s).

49:49 Descriptive Title

The speaker suggests that property rights and volunteerism could be key factors in addressing various issues. The importance of voluntary commitments is emphasized.

Property Rights and Volunteerism

  • Property rights and volunteerism may hold solutions to many issues (t=2982s).
  • Voluntary commitments, beyond simple acts, play a significant role in community involvement (t=3000s).
  • The physical space provided by institutions can have advantages (t=3015s).

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51:07 Descentralized Societies and Architectural Language

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of decentralized societies and the potential benefits of moving decision-making power to smaller entities. They also touch upon the idea of creating a new architectural language that is rooted in local culture and context.

Benefits of Decentralization

  • Moving decision-making power to smaller entities like neighborhoods or towns can lead to quicker price discovery and accountability for services. 51:29
  • The process of discovery would be much quicker at a smaller scale, allowing for more efficient problem-solving. 51:59
  • Individuals’ rights and property rights play a crucial role in this decentralized model. 51:59
  • Voluntary commitments and agreements can shape the rules within these decentralized entities. 52:20

Architectural Language

  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of not randomly picking historical styles but rather understanding the core fundamentals behind their success. 54:08
  • Developing a new architectural language requires input from the public, users, and individuals themselves through a process of presentation and rejection. 55:00
  • Different zones can be created to explore various architectural styles and see how they are received by inhabitants. Collaboration with multiple architects is encouraged. 55:19
  • Drawing inspiration from local vernacular architecture can help create buildings that are rooted in culture, climate, materials, and historical context.55:46

Middle East Architecture

  • The speaker acknowledges mixed feelings about foreign architects creating soulless constructions in the Middle East. They mention that harsh climate alone cannot justify such designs as there have been well-designed traditional neighborhoods in Dubai that effectively addressed climatic challenges while maintaining aesthetics and public spaces.57:06

58:26 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses the architectural experimentation and uniqueness of certain places in the world. They also touch upon the concept of skyscrapers and their cost implications.

Architectural Experimentation and Uniqueness

  • The speaker mentions that there has been a lot of experimentation in certain places, making them architecturally interesting.
  • These places often receive requests to build unique structures or recreate entire cities like Venice.
  • Some of these reconstructed places can be strange and deserted.

Skyscrapers and Cost Implications

  • The discussion moves towards skyscrapers and their construction costs.
  • The speaker questions whether building upwards is a good idea for living.
  • They suggest that if the true cost of constructing a skyscraper was considered, it might not have been feasible.
  • Skyscraper construction becomes exponentially more expensive as height increases due to technical challenges like pumping water and wind forces.
  • The additional stories added to a building often serve as branding rather than practicality, resulting in higher costs.
  • Fiat money (currency not backed by a physical commodity) plays a role in enabling such constructions without proper price discovery.

59:42 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker continues discussing the drawbacks of skyscrapers and explores how property rights and human needs are neglected in centralized planning.

Drawbacks of Skyscrapers

  • Skyscrapers pose challenges related to property rights, such as stealing someone’s light or impacting neighboring properties without proper compensation.
  • The speaker highlights that walking between different skyscrapers is not convenient, requiring car travel instead of pedestrian connectivity.

Neglected Human Needs

  • The centralist approach neglects soft human needs for beauty, connectivity with others, and other aspects important for well-being.
  • Building taller towers becomes a symbol of power rather than addressing these human needs.
  • The speaker suggests that the broken fiat money system contributes to wrong signals and decisions regarding skyscraper construction.

01:02:04 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker reflects on the historical purpose of building tall structures and discusses the isolation experienced in modern skyscrapers.

Historical Purpose of Tall Structures

  • The speaker mentions that traditionally, building tall structures like cathedrals was mainly for religious or awe-inspiring purposes rather than for living.
  • Impressive cathedrals evoke a sense of awe and contribute to the religious experience.

Isolation in Skyscrapers

  • Living in modern skyscrapers can lead to isolation from ground-level activities.
  • While there may be benefits like views, the thought of living in a skyscraper is not as appealing due to disconnection from the surrounding environment.
  • The speaker speculates that historical reasons for building tall structures might have involved other people’s money or voluntary contributions.

01:03:36 Descriptive Title

In this section, the discussion shifts towards banks as impressive buildings and their connection to gold standards. The speaker also mentions observations about impressive buildings appearing first as banks in certain countries.

Banks as Impressive Buildings

  • Banks used to be impressive buildings, especially when they were connected to a gold standard.
  • Displaying gold was important for assuring customers that fractional reserve banking was not being practiced.
  • Banks showcased their stability through sturdy buildings rather than operating out of small shacks.

Impressive Buildings in Certain Countries

  • The speaker observes that in some countries like Southeast Asia and Mongolia, banks were among the first impressive buildings to appear during rapid growth phases.
  • They speculate that proximity to money printers might have influenced this trend but are unsure of the exact reasons behind it.

01:04:42 Descriptive Title

In this section, the speaker discusses ornamentation in free cities, focusing on buildings and statues.

Ornamentation in Buildings and Statues

  • The speaker ponders the role of ornamentation in free cities, specifically in buildings and statues.
  • They suggest that people generally appreciate ornamentation, but the decision-making process for what is considered appropriate can be privatized.
  • There is no reason why private entities couldn’t determine the level of ornamentation in a free city.

01:05:12 The Concept of a Company-Owned City

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of forming a company that owns various aspects of a city, such as the river and park. They explain how individuals can become part of a bidding system to contribute financially and have a say in the activities and development within the city.

Formation of a Company-Owned City

  • A company is formed to own the river, park, and other elements of the city.
  • Individuals become part of this company and vote on decisions made by the board.
  • Participation in the bidding system allows individuals to contribute financially to influence activities within the city.

01:05:42 Ornamentation in Architecture

This section focuses on ornamentation in architecture. The speaker mentions how ornamentation can be visually appealing but also highlights potential challenges when it becomes haphazard. They discuss different materials used for ornamentation and their impact on overall aesthetics.

Importance of Ornamentation

  • Ornamentation can enhance architectural designs.
  • Graphic ornamentation is often preferred by people.
  • Haphazard ornamentation may detract from overall aesthetics.

Materials for Ornamentation

  • Different materials can be used for ornamentation.
  • Preference for using materials that match or complement each other.

01:06:12 Interplay Between Chaos and Uniformity

The speaker explores the interplay between chaos and uniformity in architectural design. They use examples from streets with different buildings together to illustrate this concept.

Interplay Between Chaos and Uniformity

  • Streets with different buildings together demonstrate an interplay between chaos and uniformity.
  • Buildings may differ in shape, but there can still be common elements or patterns.

01:06:25 Contrasting Ornamentation in Buildings

The speaker discusses the contrasting ornamentation in buildings they observe from a window. They highlight the differences between a building with Roman frescoes and the neighboring building with less ornate features.

Contrasting Ornamentation

  • Building opposite has Roman frescoes as ornamentation.
  • Neighboring building has less ornate features but still includes some form of ornamentation.

01:06:46 Appreciation for Ornamentation

The speaker reflects on the appreciation for ornamentation, even in modern times. They mention how visitors, including themselves, are amazed by the architectural beauty and uniqueness found in Prague.

Appreciation for Ornamentation

  • Visitors appreciate the diverse architectural styles and lack of uniformity.
  • The Higaldi Piggaldi nature of Prague’s architecture is admired.
  • People do not come to Prague looking for modernist architecture.

01:07:08 Variety and Common Elements in Architecture

This section focuses on the interplay between variety and common elements in architecture. The speaker appreciates both diversity and shared characteristics among buildings.

Interplay Between Variety and Common Elements

  • Buildings may differ in color, shape, or texture while still sharing common elements.
  • Architect Nicholas Sonning-Garros emphasizes the fractal quality of patterns in architecture.

01:08:02 Attention to Detail in Architecture

The speaker highlights the importance of attention to detail in architecture. They discuss how details such as material textures and patterns contribute to overall beauty and attractiveness.

Attention to Detail

  • Details like stone texture or wood lines add depth to architectural designs.
  • Scaling up patterns within a building creates a visually appealing effect.
  • Attention to detail is a key aspect of what people find beautiful and attractive in architecture.

01:08:29 Contemporary Architecture and Variety

The speaker reflects on contemporary architecture and the potential loss of variety and attention to detail. They mention the importance of maintaining a balance between haphazardness and attractiveness.

Contemporary Architecture

  • Some contemporary architecture lacks complexity, variety, and attention to detail.
  • People still appreciate diversity in architectural styles.
  • Striking a balance between haphazardness and attractiveness is crucial.

01:09:04 Unique Charm of Prague’s Architecture

The speaker discusses the unique charm of Prague’s architecture. They highlight how visitors rarely find it ugly or monotonous, unlike modernist architecture found in other cities.

Unique Charm of Prague’s Architecture

  • Visitors are captivated by the beauty of Prague’s diverse architectural styles.
  • Prague’s lack of a modernist sector does not diminish its appeal.
  • The city’s buildings, towers, and overall ambiance contribute to its uniqueness.

01:09:24 Exploring New Architectural Languages

This section focuses on exploring new architectural languages as materials and building methods evolve. The speaker mentions the potential for cheaper construction using organic shapes and innovative materials.

New Architectural Languages

  • New architectural languages aim for cost-effectiveness.
  • Organic shapes with different attributes are being explored.
  • Innovative materials can provide strength while reducing thickness.

01:10:11 Challenges in Implementing New Architectural Languages

The speaker discusses challenges in implementing new architectural languages at a larger scale. They emphasize the need for cohesive urban fabric when adopting new approaches to architecture.

Implementing New Architectural Languages

  • Implementing new architectural languages at a larger scale poses challenges.
  • Cohesive urban fabric is essential for interaction and integration.
  • Examples of traditional organic architecture in Africa are mentioned.

01:11:16 Functional and Aesthetic Considerations in Architecture

This section explores the balance between functionality and aesthetics in architecture. The speaker mentions timber frame buildings known for their functional rigidity and discusses personal preferences for diverse architectural styles.

Functional and Aesthetic Considerations

  • Timber frame buildings are both functional and aesthetically pleasing.
  • Personal preference leans towards diverse architectural styles.
  • Monotonous or uniform buildings can feel strange or less appealing.

01:11:46 Balancing Uniformity and Variety in Architecture

The speaker reflects on the balance between uniformity and variety in architecture. They mention examples of towns with predominantly black and white buildings, highlighting the need for diversity within a cityscape.

Balancing Uniformity and Variety

  • Towns with predominantly black and white buildings can feel monotonous.
  • Striking a balance between uniformity and variety is crucial.
  • Diversity within a cityscape adds visual interest.

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01:12:29 The Importance of Range in Architecture

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of having a range of architectural styles and designs, drawing a parallel with the variety found in Italian food. They emphasize that while different tastes exist, architecture should stand the test of time and evolve over time.

Architectural Language and Food

  • Italian food is appreciated because it offers a range of options that are not necessarily expensive but still enjoyable.
  • Similarly, architecture should have a wide range to cater to different tastes and preferences.
  • However, it is crucial for architectural designs to withstand the test of time and evolve into something better.

01:13:05 Incremental Development and Infrastructure

This section focuses on the concept of incremental development in architecture and how infrastructure can be decentralized. It also highlights the benefits of starting with smaller-scale projects before expanding further.

Incremental Development Approach

  • Depending on funding availability, construction can start with smaller parts or specific areas.
  • The idea is to gradually build up infrastructure and public spaces based on evolving needs.
  • Starting with a marina, shops, and a public domain can serve as a skeleton for further development.
  • Infrastructure should be designed to be more decentralized, allowing for easier scalability and resilience.

Decentralized Infrastructure

  • Infrastructure elements like water supply or electricity can be initially established in a decentralized manner.
  • Over time, additional systems can be added without relying on centralized structures.
  • This approach allows for better cash flow management and quicker adaptation to changing needs.

01:14:44 Services Provided by City Operators

Here, the speaker discusses the role of city operators in providing essential services such as waste management, power supply, sewage systems, etc. They emphasize the importance of introducing competition and avoiding a subsidized model.

Lean City Operator Services

  • City operators should focus on providing essential services while encouraging peer-to-peer interactions.
  • For example, waste management can initially be minimal, with individuals responsible for their own waste.
  • As the need arises, entrepreneurs can step in to offer waste removal services or recycling options.
  • The goal is to create a market-driven approach where resources are utilized efficiently.

Soft Landing and Competition

  • When people move to a new city, there should be a smooth transition with access to basic amenities like power, water, safety, security, etc.
  • However, it is important to introduce competition among service providers to ensure quality and innovation.
  • The aim is to avoid a subsidized model that hampers quality and discourages incentives for improvement.

01:18:22 Future Projects and Political Sensitivity

In this section, the speaker mentions ongoing negotiations with governments regarding potential projects. They highlight the sensitivity surrounding disclosing specific locations due to political reasons.

Ongoing Project Negotiations

  • The organization is in talks with multiple governments at any given time regarding potential projects.
  • Around five governments are engaged in serious discussions, while others are at different stages of maturity.
  • Design work has already begun for certain locations but cannot be disclosed due to political sensitivity.

01:19:42 Appreciation and Critique of Modernism in Architecture

Here, the speaker expresses their personal opinion on modernism in architecture. While acknowledging some beautiful objects within modernism, they argue against its widespread use in cities.

Personal Opinion on Modernism

  • While some objects within modernism may be aesthetically pleasing as standalone pieces, they may not be suitable for creating cohesive cities.
  • The speaker questions whether all modernist designs can truly be considered beautiful objects.
  • They emphasize the importance of considering the overall cityscape and avoiding an overabundance of modernist architecture.

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01:20:28 The Design of Barbican and Modern Art

In this section, the speaker discusses their perspective on the design of Barbican in Central London and its lack of interaction with the surrounding area. They also touch upon the concept of objective beauty and subjective preferences in art and architecture.

The Design of Barbican

  • The speaker criticizes the design of Barbican, stating that it is not integrated into its surroundings and lacks interaction with other streets in London. 01:20:54
  • They consider it a bad design and compare it to modern art, appreciating it as an art effect but questioning its functionality. 01:21:17
  • The speaker doubts the idea that people always reject the style of their time, suggesting that there might be something like objective beauty. However, they remain uncertain about this notion. 01:21:45

Objective Beauty vs Subjective Preferences

  • The discussion revolves around whether there is such a thing as objective beauty or if everything is subjective. The speaker believes there might be some elements of objective beauty based on thousands of years of history focused on creating beautiful designs. 01:22:06
  • There is a mention of postmodernism and how some people use the idea that everything is subjective to deny any notion of truth or objective beauty. However, the speaker disagrees with this extreme view and believes that while there may be a spectrum, objective beauty exists within narrower boundaries than suggested by postmodernists. 01:22:34

01:22:59 Modernist Buildings and Their Impact

In this section, the conversation shifts towards discussing modernist buildings, their impact on cities, and their suitability for different socioeconomic groups.

Impact of Modernist Buildings

  • The speaker highlights how modernist buildings, such as tower blocks, often lack a connection to the surrounding landscape and can be seen as monstrosities. They compare this to modern buildings placed in natural settings without considering the context. 01:24:05
  • Modernist buildings tend to age poorly due to their sharp lines and clean colors, making them look worse over time compared to older buildings that acquire a patina and maintain their beauty. The speaker mentions the Barbican as an example of a building that has not aged well. 01:24:26
  • Technical issues with modernist designs, such as handling water damage and flat roofs, contribute to their deterioration over time. 01:24:52

Suitability for Different Socioeconomic Groups

  • The conversation touches upon how many modernist buildings were built for the masses rather than elites. The speaker questions whether these designs truly reflect care for people’s well-being or if they imply a disregard for their living conditions. 01:23:25
  • Despite criticisms, some people find modernist buildings fascinating due to their uniqueness or curiosity value, similar to ultra-modern buildings placed in natural landscapes. However, the speaker considers these exceptions rather than representative examples of good design. 01:23:47

01:25:46 Architecture and Longevity

In this section, the focus shifts towards contemporary architecture and the speaker’s personal opinion on what makes architecture valuable.

Contemporary Architecture

  • The speaker expresses interest in contemporary architecture using unconventional materials like bamboo or timber but emphasizes that longevity is crucial when evaluating architectural designs. They mention amazing new timber buildings as an example of contemporary architecture that can stand the test of time. 01:25:46

Value of Architecture

  • The speaker shares their personal approach to architecture by prioritizing its ability to last 400-500 years. They highlight their experience renovating an old farm and building extensions with a focus on durability and longevity. 01:26:14
  • Architecture that stands the test of time often has multiple functions and incorporates elements found in nature, such as shapes that prevent water damage. The speaker believes there is a design aspect that contributes to the longevity of buildings. 01:26:38

01:27:19 The Importance of Functionality and Longevity in Architecture

In this section, the speaker discusses the significance of functionality and longevity in architecture, using examples from different cities.

Designing for Care and Longevity

  • Architects should prioritize creating functional and beautiful buildings that people want to care for and maintain.
  • Brutalist buildings are often not designed to last long because they lack aesthetic appeal and do not encourage people to invest in their maintenance.
  • Some buildings in expensive neighborhoods receive better care due to their location, but others may be neglected.

Berlin as an Example

  • Berlin has a diverse range of building styles due to its history of destruction and reconstruction.
  • While many buildings have been restored with traditional facades, some still exhibit a jarring contrast between old and modern structures. This diversity reflects Berlin’s chaotic history.

Issues with Modern Buildings

  • Modern buildings often use materials that are not built to last, as they are constructed quickly for short-term profit.
  • The speaker believes in creating buildings that will stand the test of time, lasting for hundreds of years rather than being easily demolished or replaced.

Hard Money and Long-Term Thinking

  • The use of hard money (such as gold or Bitcoin) inspires longevity and long-term thinking in architecture. During periods when hard money was prevalent, there was more value placed on everything, including construction projects.
  • The speaker hopes that society is entering a phase where long-term thinking and the desire for lasting buildings will prevail. The concept of free cities aligns with this idea.

Low Time Preference in Building Free Cities

  • People attending the conference on free cities likely have a low time preference, meaning they are willing to invest in projects that may not come to fruition within their lifetime. They are planting trees for future generations to enjoy.

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